ORMC is a level one trauma center. probably still alive. normaly only go to celebration if they are dead to be called by the doc.IndyandMarion wrote:Friends and I were talking about this yesterday and we agreed: It was natural selection.
Sorry. While it's sad this happened, guy should have been in the crosswalk. It's what the things were made for. Can't tell you how many times lately I've seen people come this close to getting hit because they aren't using crosswalks.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just cracky cause Im up earlier than I wanted to be today.
(Anyone know why it was ORMC and not celebration like any other accidents at WDW?)
Yet another bus accident...
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Re: Yet another bus accident...
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Re: Yet another bus accident...
This reminds me of a gentleman who decided to take his own life on the night of his Birthday by stepping in front of a moving OCTA Public Transportation Bus.
Not a good night for the driver or the folks on board. You can't fault the driver for this at all. And I really feel for her. Any large vehicle that has trouble stopping. There's no way she could've stopped.
*EDIT* After reading Zazu's story and working around locomotives at one time myself, I gotta echo the sentiments. Don't walk/play around tracks, and don't cover up both ears. I've seen quite a few near misses while working @ Knott's, and that was just in ONE year. The C-19's can't stop on a dime either, and they go slow as well (even slower than 25mph, I wanna say they cap us at 15mph with guests on board). Just be safe, don't do anything stupid. But to go even further, you need to be safe around them even while doing standard procedures. I'll be kinda vague in this story, just because I don't want to reveal any info.
An engineer was working around our C-19s on year during Halloween Haunt uncoupling them and getting them taken care of for the night (closing up shop). While I wasn't here for this (it was well before my time), from what I was told, the coaches and tender shifted while he was uncoupling them, and he was pinned between them, being crushed instantly and killed. And he wasn't doing his job any differently than the day before.
It was one of the first stories I was told of when I was cross-trained to Calico Railroad. It was told to all the newhires and trainees by their trainers or leads to instill in them that they had to be safe around these behemoth machines. Just because they were at a themepark going 5 or 10mph didn't make these locomotives any less heavy (C-19 weighs 35 tons) or any less dangerous...personally I consider them to be living machines, with minds of their own. The story Zazu told just kinda reminded me of my story. I don't think it's a story that's been told all that often, but it just goes to show you that you can never be too safe around something.
Not a good night for the driver or the folks on board. You can't fault the driver for this at all. And I really feel for her. Any large vehicle that has trouble stopping. There's no way she could've stopped.
*EDIT* After reading Zazu's story and working around locomotives at one time myself, I gotta echo the sentiments. Don't walk/play around tracks, and don't cover up both ears. I've seen quite a few near misses while working @ Knott's, and that was just in ONE year. The C-19's can't stop on a dime either, and they go slow as well (even slower than 25mph, I wanna say they cap us at 15mph with guests on board). Just be safe, don't do anything stupid. But to go even further, you need to be safe around them even while doing standard procedures. I'll be kinda vague in this story, just because I don't want to reveal any info.
An engineer was working around our C-19s on year during Halloween Haunt uncoupling them and getting them taken care of for the night (closing up shop). While I wasn't here for this (it was well before my time), from what I was told, the coaches and tender shifted while he was uncoupling them, and he was pinned between them, being crushed instantly and killed. And he wasn't doing his job any differently than the day before.
It was one of the first stories I was told of when I was cross-trained to Calico Railroad. It was told to all the newhires and trainees by their trainers or leads to instill in them that they had to be safe around these behemoth machines. Just because they were at a themepark going 5 or 10mph didn't make these locomotives any less heavy (C-19 weighs 35 tons) or any less dangerous...personally I consider them to be living machines, with minds of their own. The story Zazu told just kinda reminded me of my story. I don't think it's a story that's been told all that often, but it just goes to show you that you can never be too safe around something.
RIP Bud Hurlbut.
You will be missed.
You will be missed.
Re: Yet another bus accident...
This reminds me of a gentleman who decided to take his own life on the night of his Birthday by stepping in front of a moving OCTA Public Transportation Bus. It was eventually found to be his own doing, but the OCTA Bus driver was pretty damn well shook up. Not sure what happened to them.
Not a good night for the driver or the folks on board. You can't fault the driver for this at all. And I really feel for her. Any large vehicle that has trouble stopping. There's no way she could've stopped. While I haven't read the articles...I'm pretty sure that the guy who stepped out in front of it had to know what he was doing. A big bus rumbling down at you and you step out at it? Seems like the guy wanted to..
And.. After reading Zazu's locomotive/train story and working around locomotives/trains at one time myself, I gotta echo the sentiments. Don't walk/play around tracks, and don't cover up both ears. I've seen quite a few near misses while working @ Knott's, and that was just in ONE year. The C-19's can't stop on a dime either, and they go slow as well (even slower than 25mph, I wanna say they cap us at 15mph with guests on board). Just be safe, don't do anything stupid. But to go even further, you need to be safe around them even while doing standard procedures. I'll be kinda vague in this story, just because I don't want to reveal any info.
An engineer was working around our C-19s one year during Halloween Haunt uncoupling them and getting them taken care of for the night (closing up shop). While I wasn't here for this (it was well before my time), from what I was told, the coaches and tender shifted while he was uncoupling them, and he was pinned between them, being crushed instantly and killed. And he wasn't doing his job any differently than the day before. So in a matter of an instant, something that he was doing normally ended up being what ended him. Not sure what the end result was that made the cars shift (most of the old-timers never wanted to talk about it, and none of the newhires ever asked about it), but the moral is that you can't be too safe around something. Even if it's something you do every day.
It was one of the first stories I was told of when I was cross-trained to Calico Railroad. It was told to all the newhires and trainees by their trainers or leads to instill in them that they had to be safe around these behemoth machines. Just because they were at a themepark going 5 or 10mph didn't make these locomotives any less heavy (C-19 weighs 35 tons) or any less dangerous...personally I consider them to be living machines, with minds of their own. The story Zazu told just kinda reminded me of my story. I don't think it's a story that's been told all that often, but it just goes to show you that you can never be too safe around something.
Not a good night for the driver or the folks on board. You can't fault the driver for this at all. And I really feel for her. Any large vehicle that has trouble stopping. There's no way she could've stopped. While I haven't read the articles...I'm pretty sure that the guy who stepped out in front of it had to know what he was doing. A big bus rumbling down at you and you step out at it? Seems like the guy wanted to..
And.. After reading Zazu's locomotive/train story and working around locomotives/trains at one time myself, I gotta echo the sentiments. Don't walk/play around tracks, and don't cover up both ears. I've seen quite a few near misses while working @ Knott's, and that was just in ONE year. The C-19's can't stop on a dime either, and they go slow as well (even slower than 25mph, I wanna say they cap us at 15mph with guests on board). Just be safe, don't do anything stupid. But to go even further, you need to be safe around them even while doing standard procedures. I'll be kinda vague in this story, just because I don't want to reveal any info.
An engineer was working around our C-19s one year during Halloween Haunt uncoupling them and getting them taken care of for the night (closing up shop). While I wasn't here for this (it was well before my time), from what I was told, the coaches and tender shifted while he was uncoupling them, and he was pinned between them, being crushed instantly and killed. And he wasn't doing his job any differently than the day before. So in a matter of an instant, something that he was doing normally ended up being what ended him. Not sure what the end result was that made the cars shift (most of the old-timers never wanted to talk about it, and none of the newhires ever asked about it), but the moral is that you can't be too safe around something. Even if it's something you do every day.
It was one of the first stories I was told of when I was cross-trained to Calico Railroad. It was told to all the newhires and trainees by their trainers or leads to instill in them that they had to be safe around these behemoth machines. Just because they were at a themepark going 5 or 10mph didn't make these locomotives any less heavy (C-19 weighs 35 tons) or any less dangerous...personally I consider them to be living machines, with minds of their own. The story Zazu told just kinda reminded me of my story. I don't think it's a story that's been told all that often, but it just goes to show you that you can never be too safe around something.
RIP Bud Hurlbut.
You will be missed.
You will be missed.
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Regarding the iPod and the advice to "only use one earbud":
I don't think this should be a "hard and fast" rule. The problem might also have been solved if (a) the person had kept the volume lower and/or (b) they didn't walk along the train tracks. Particularly (b). You would think that, after more than a century of having trains about, it would be nearly impossible for anyone to not know that walking on railroad tracks is a bad idea.
One also has to know when it is safe to use an iPod or other music player, as well as how. Of course one shouldn't be using stereo headsets while driving. When walking, particularly near traffic, one should keep the volume low enough so one can hear an approaching car, not to mention it's horn. It should go without saying that one should also be aware of one's surroundings, and follow all traffic laws that apply to a pedestrian.
I don't think this should be a "hard and fast" rule. The problem might also have been solved if (a) the person had kept the volume lower and/or (b) they didn't walk along the train tracks. Particularly (b). You would think that, after more than a century of having trains about, it would be nearly impossible for anyone to not know that walking on railroad tracks is a bad idea.
One also has to know when it is safe to use an iPod or other music player, as well as how. Of course one shouldn't be using stereo headsets while driving. When walking, particularly near traffic, one should keep the volume low enough so one can hear an approaching car, not to mention it's horn. It should go without saying that one should also be aware of one's surroundings, and follow all traffic laws that apply to a pedestrian.
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This can all be solved if we all go back to carrying a boom-box on our shoulder as we go along with our daily activities.
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Just make sure that the boom-box does NOT block your line of site before stepping into traffic.ktulu wrote:This can all be solved if we all go back to carrying a boom-box on our shoulder as we go along with our daily activities.

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Learn this by experience?darph nader wrote:Just make sure that the boom-box does NOT block your line of site before stepping into traffic.![]()
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