Captain EO is returning to WDW.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Look at 3.14 in the mirror.

now that is just toooooo spooky!!!



hehehehhee

[IndyandMarion]

All ready planning my camp out at EPCOT Center on July 2nd. I'll be on vacation so I might as well. Last time I saw EO properly was in 93. Since then I've had to settle with a 3-D version I downloaded online.

[Disneyguy85]

I just have to say, I can only speak for myself, but I think that it has been established here that Walt Disney did NOT ever think that Disneyland itself was a mistake. (That is such a sick thing to say) This park was his baby!

His only regret was that he did not have as much land as he would have liked.

On the plus side though, Disneyland's small spaces have sparked many creative solutions;
Such as Fantasmic, they had to get clever with the space they had to create a show that is larger than life, and yet there is no evidence of this show by day.
Or the fact that the main show building for the Submarine Voyage is under the Autopia track.

No doubt about it; Disneyland imagineers have always been clever with their space.
Challenges breed creative solutions.

And yes, it is common knowledge that bigger is not necessarily better.

I don't think its a stretch to say that if Disneyland in California were never built, there would most likely never have been a WDW in Florida.



So, I did not intend to write that much when I started, but let me be crystal clear that this post was not aimed at anyone in particular. I just had to get all of that out.

Hooray for Captain EO!

[mapo]

First, I am thrilled to see Captain EO come back! Why? Well, it was ground breaking and entertaining. Look at the talent that was in it and made the attraction.

Second, I know that Walt did not live to see WDW completed. I think that Roy made sure it was done the way Walt would have wanted ... I always have thought of WDW as Roy honoring Walt's vision and legacy.

OK, now that I said all that...

I hate the fact that WDW while generating a huge amount of revenue for Disney Corp always seems to get the short end of the stick. If the Imagineers and Corp big wigs were in our neighborhood, we at WDW would certainly see more new attractions and improvements than we have seen in a long time.

Too often these policy makers located all the way out west depend on a snapshot of what is going on at WDW to make decisions. Notice how DLR still has a vibrant Downtown Disney, but WDW DTD is a freaking morgue?

WDW used to be a fully functioning resort destination for adults and conferences. Now, well our convention business imploded...and adult only fare is basically non existant. Convention venues are routinely dormant...millions invested in infrastructure with no revenue being generated.

Adult guests flock to non Disney outlets for entertainment...our meager bar offerings at the resorts are subpar with similarly ranked hotels in major cities. When the parks close early, there is no where but DTD for people to get entertainment. So they go to Downtown Orlando or City Walk for nightlife. And the undesirable elements we wanted out of our controlled environment of PI are now rolling into the resorts with our guests instead.

Worse, with Disney One really gearing up, more and more of WDW decisions are being made by those who do not live here, may have never worked here, and have no idea what to do with WDW.

DL and WDW have separate character. DL is the intimate park steeped deeply in our heritage that caters to the local community. WDW will always be the sprawling resort that tries to take the best of DL and offer it to the World.

It is up to all of us to make sure that WDW stops being the 'red headed step child' and be recognized as the vibrant and diverse resort destination that Walt envisioned and Roy created in his honor.

Anything less is a waste and a loss. For all of us.

MAPO

[lady ulrike]

Sure thing. I bet it's nice to be able to go to DL and DCA all in one day and still be able to make it home in time for dinner :)

Your right, DCA was an attempt to keep people on property, They saw that everyone was going to WDW for the fun stuff, so they slapped together a fair in the parking lot tossing in attractions that are popular at WDW.

First, you can't do DL and DCA in one day and make it home for dinner, DCA, yes, but DL no. And DL and DCA, no way. Even with a wheelchair and/or GAC card, you won't make it through all of it and make it home in time for dinner.

And you say that they put attractions that are popular at WDW and put them in DCA. Let's list the attractions that are in DCA and also at WDW. It's Tough to be a Bug, Muppet Vision 3-D, The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, Soarin' (over California).....ummmm.....I think that's it, someone please correct me if I've missed one. Only 2 of those were there when the park opened and one of them was at DCA first and went to WDW, with a slight name change. I also would not classify It's Tough to be a Bug or Muppet Vision 3-D as attractions that are popular at WDW, again, if someone disagrees, please say so. So, that makes one attraction that was popular at WDW and was placed in DCA and it was not placed in DCA until after the park had been open for 3 years. Those are my facts to disprove your statement that they through attractions that were popular at WDW into DCA. Ok, popularity of the attraction is my opinion from lines I have seen for them when I have been there, and how those lines compare to other attractions, but other than that, all solid facts.

[Main Streeter]

Captain EO I liked. This thread....not so much. Negatives & blither tire me out, especially after working with ignorance for 8 hrs.

[Honda Enoch]

I just have to say, I can only speak for myself, but I think that it has been established here that Walt Disney did NOT ever think that Disneyland itself was a mistake. (That is such a sick thing to say) This park was his baby!

So I guess Walt was just kidding when he was quoted saying "Disneyland was a mistake..."

...I also would not classify It's Tough to be a Bug or Muppet Vision 3-D as attractions that are popular at WDW,

So Disney decided to send attractions that were not popular over to DCA just for the fun of it???? Interesting.

[lady ulrike]

So Disney decided to send attractions that were not popular over to DCA just for the fun of it???? Interesting.

What they did was put in a couple of attractions that were cheap to duplicate. If they were looking to put in popular attractions from WDW, they had many others to choose from, but Paul Pressler was in charge when DCA was built and his attitude towards attractions had nothing to do with the quality or popularity of an attraction but simply how much it cost to build an attraction.

[Honda Enoch]

What they did was put in a couple of attractions that were cheap to duplicate. If they were looking to put in popular attractions from WDW, they had many others to choose from, but Paul Pressler was in charge when DCA was built and his attitude towards attractions had nothing to do with the quality or popularity of an attraction but simply how much it cost to build an attraction.

That makes perfect sense. Disney don't care about whats popular or not. They want to fill a brand new park (at the time) with as many cheap, low popularity attractions as they can so the park will be a success and that way they don't have to come back later and demolish a bunch of things and expand the park with new popular attractions.

[lady ulrike]

That makes perfect sense. Disney don't care about whats popular or not. They want to fill a brand new park (at the time) with as many cheap, low popularity attractions as they can so the park will be a success and that way they don't have to come back later and demolish a bunch of things and expand the park with new popular attractions.

I'm guessing you know little or nothing about Paul Pressler. You see, he seemed to think that Guests came to Disney Parks for shopping, not to ride attractions, DCA was his baby. If you had ever been to the park, especially in it's early days, you'd see that there are just about as many stores are attractions. So, if you replace that at that time Pressler was in charge of what into that park, then yes, that's pretty much exactly the situation. He's also the one responsible for the failure of the Rocket Rods, cause he wouldn't let them spend the money that was necessary to build it correctly, so they had to take shortcuts and therefore it was an inferior attraction.

I'm so glad we can agree on this.