Breastfeeding in public (Was "Talking durring attractions")

[justafigment84]

Becasue no mater how you coat it, it's still indecent exposure.

No indecent exposure is some of the guests that walk around with everything hanging out. Especially in the summer.

Most of the time I don't even notice the women breastfeeding in the parks and I am there everyday (at least it seems like it) Most people don't notice it unless they are looking for it. In all honesty, you might as well just drop this subject.

We should get back to people talking in attractions.

On that note, I will admit that I talk during GMR but I have been on it enough times that I know the majority of the dialog. But like Indy said it's never the same ride twice. :)

[LittleDollClaudia]

I am appalled at this. I'm sorry, but you have dated women who have done these things? That is NOT the same as being a breastfeeding mother! Have YOU been walking through a store or theme park when your baby is hungry or you just hear a baby cry and the milk is so full it hurts? I don't think so. No, I don't agree with not covering up but you obviously seem to have a major problem with a natural process of life. It makes a person wonder what kind of hang-ups that you have to make this such an issue.

These women aren't trying to tantalize you, they are feeding their children. How dare you be so presumptuous as to suggest that families not take their infants to a theme park? From your arguments, it sounds like you would be happy if mothers stayed at home until their kids were potty trained and ate from a plate. So we should go back to the 50's when moms stayed in the kitchen and just popped out kids? With no rights or a say in their lives?

As for the pump situation, that is laughingly ridiculous. I have used one upon occasion. You make it out to be something simple, well, it isn't. It takes a lot longer for that to work than just feeding your baby. You may have been around infants but having one of your own will a TOTALLY new experience for you.

After you are blessed with a child of your own, then you are more than welcome to share. But from your prejudice, whatever you have will wind up as narrow minded as yourself. If your child actually asks you that question, then it would be clear to me that you have not raised her or him properly.

I have children and they have NEVER asked such an asinine question. They accept the fact that women feed their babies that way and they are not embarrassed or feel it is "indecent". If anything, they are pleased that the mother is not relying on artificial items such as bottles or formula to keep the baby healthy.

By the way, if you had walked up to me and said a negative word as I sat on a bench with a blanket over me as I fed my child, I would've decked you. Trust me, I am not the only one.

I do have a few questions for you though. How would your mother feel about your conversation here if she knew? Would she be as understanding? Or would she be as offended as the rest of this panel? Just wondering.

So that's my two cents on this matter. Feel free to spend it or save it for a rainy day...

We now return to the thread in progress....

[leftcoaster]

Becasue no mater how you coat it, it's still indecent exposure.

So by your "definition" of "indecent exposure," you would be able to jack off to a woman who is naturally breastfeeding, but not be able to jack off to a Brittany Spears video, eh?

And tell us, "o wise one," how are you going to explain to your horny 13 year old son not to stare at a 19 year old college girl in a bikini, especially after he says aloud, "Wow, she has some nice tits!"

[idratherbeinwdw]

Head Mouse you said you and your fiancee are about to have your first child--some folks would say it's indecent to have a child when you are not married. Now it doesn't bother me a bit, but it does bother me that you are judging others for their choices.

Nursing a baby is not the same as indecent exposure, not even close. You say "flopping out a tit" as if they are standing on line next to you or walking through the parks with their breasts exposed. I doubt you have seen either. At least not from a nursing mother, maybe from a scantily clad guest!

I think Claudia put it best, these women are not there to tantalize you, they are feeding their children. Get over it! If you are turned on by the sight of a nursing mother you might choose to seek therapy to find out why.

[mechurchlady]

The main problem I reiterate is that amusement parks have many types of guests. Would a woman do this in front of a priest, rabbi or minister? I doubt it but they do it openly in a public area. There are people in the parks who for what ever reason are not supposed, should not or do not want to see topless women or breastfeeding women. These people have to way to avoid violating their religious and/or moral beliefs. I have known religious ladies who breastfed their kids and they never ever would just bare it all for the world to see. Also I do not want to see anyone's bare chest when I am eating. It I did then I would find me a strip club and take my lunch there.

I know nothing about babies but I thought that babies had schedules for feeding but maybe I am wrong.

[idratherbeinwdw]

The main problem I reiterate is that amusement parks have many types of guests. Would a woman do this in front of a priest, rabbi or minister? I doubt it but they do it openly in a public area. There are people in the parks who for what ever reason are not supposed, should not or do not want to see topless women or breastfeeding women. These people have to way to avoid violating their religious and/or moral beliefs. I have known religious ladies who breastfed their kids and they never ever would just bare it all for the world to see. Also I do not want to see anyone's bare chest when I am eating. It I did then I would find me a strip club and take my lunch there.

I know nothing about babies but I thought that babies had schedules for feeding but maybe I am wrong.

I don't think you can compare what folks do in public to what they do in church or synagogue. There are LOTS of things people wouldn't do in front of clergy that they would do in WDW.

Most moms do not nurse in such a way that you can see anything, but if you do just look the other way. Nursing is not the same as flashing. Your comparison to a strip club is really insulting to many of us who have nursed our children. We aren't pole dancing.

And yes you are wrong. Babies eat when they are hungry, very few have a dependable schedule. I would assume that most folks would prefer a baby nursing to listening to the screams that will surely develop if they are going hungry.

[SirWillow]

Wow, what a touchy subject.

As a dad with 2 kids, I've no problem with breastfeeding in public. When ours were babes, it was about the only way that we could get out of the house sometimes, and frankly Mom needs to be able to get outside of the house. Not all babies will take bottles. They just don't sometimes. Ours didn't until they were 3 and 5 months old respectively, in spite of lots of trying.

So if we outlaw breatfeeding in public, as some propose, then you've condemned Mom to home incarceration until the baby is willing to take a bottle. You've also essentially banned any other kids in the family from being able to go out anywhere with Mom. That's not exactly fair to them either, is it?

We were taking our kids to amusement parks from the time they were a few months old. Why? Because we love to go to them, and always have, and haven't always been able to get a sitter to keep the kids. It was easier most of the time to take the sitter with us and then rotate the minding adult on the rides. That's how life goes sometimes. Especially when it comes to something like Disney, where people will often plan for it a year or two in advance and then have a "surprise" before they get to take the trip. Cancel the whole vacation because of a new baby? Not a chance.

At the same time, I'm very appreciative of those mothers that use a bit of modesty and discretion when they breastfeed. Putting a towel over the child, using large clothing, or some other method of being discreet is appreciated, and shows that Mom has a bit of class.

But keep in mind also that breastfeeding is a very different kind of "exposure" than flopping or flashing. If someone is walking around without a top on for no reason, that's indecent. If someone is in the process of feeding a baby, they're not going to have their entire top open, undone, and showing the world. If you're worried about the kids, then use it as a teaching moment. Lord knows we did.

Oh, and if it helps on perspective, there's many that would call us ultra-conservative and even prudish. :)

[SirWillow]

The main problem I reiterate is that amusement parks have many types of guests. Would a woman do this in front of a priest, rabbi or minister? I doubt it but they do it openly in a public area.

Sorry, but had to chime in on this part. As someone who has been very involved in the church over the last several years, and who now works as a youth pastor, I hope I have a little experience here.

Yes, women do this in front of a priest, rabbi, or minister. Yes they do it during church services. And yes, that's ok. Though they'll normally be rather discreet about it, and try to cover up some at least. But I've known and seen several women breastfeed their children during services and at church events over the last few years.

[head mouse]

Have YOU been walking through a store or theme park when your baby is hungry

Yes. and you reach into the bag and pull out a BOTTL of milk and feed the baby.

and the milk is so full it hurts?

All the more reason to PUMP THE MILK.

but you obviously seem to have a major problem with a natural process of life. It makes a person wonder what kind of hang-ups that you have to make this such an issue.

I have NO PROBELM with brestfeeding. The problem is the women that WONT cover up. and like I said. since ther eare ALOT of women that wont cover up, then they should all be made to use a facility in private.

These women aren't trying to tantalize you, they are feeding their children.

THEN THEY NEED TO COVER UP!!!!!

How dare you be so presumptuous as to suggest that families not take their infants to a theme park? From your arguments, it sounds like you would be happy if mothers stayed at home until their kids were potty trained and ate from a plate.

Sometimes. Dealing with the public my whole life and seeing "parents" letting their little brats run around and be little hell-yuns. I would say yes, thats a great idea. But thats not what I was saying at all. If a mother can not take their infant into public without having to flash the world her tits, then she shouldn't do it at all. And Why the hell would someoen bring a 7 month old to the movie theater??? If you can't find a baby sitter, then stay home. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You are a parent, that means you don't get too party all the time too.

So we should go back to the 50's when moms stayed in the kitchen and just popped out kids? With no rights or a say in their lives?

I don't see anyone saying that at all. How the hell can you take "Cover up when you breast feed or go somewhere private" and turn it into "Women shouldn't have rights.

As for the pump situation, that is laughingly ridiculous. I have used one upon occasion. You make it out to be something simple, well, it isn't. It takes a lot longer for that to work than just feeding your baby. You may have been around infants but having one of your own will a TOTALLY new experience for you.

You have got to be kidding me. You make it sound like rocket science. It's a damn pump. I have seen many of my ex-gf's use them. And helping to raise many of my ex's kids, and actualy raising my nephew from birth. The experaince is all the same.

After you are blessed with a child of your own, then you are more than welcome to share. But from your prejudice, whatever you have will wind up as narrow minded as yourself. If your child actually asks you that question, then it would be clear to me that you have not raised her or him properly.

Oh so I should teach my kids from birth that the world is a disgrace and that it's ok for them to just fop their tits out in public????

And how the hell can you say i'm prejudice. prejudice aginst what? seeing womens tits with a baby stuck to it????

I have children and they have NEVER asked such an asinine question. They accept the fact that women feed their babies that way and they are not embarrassed or feel it is "indecent". If anything, they are pleased that the mother is not relying on artificial items such as bottles or formula to keep the baby healthy.

Well, maybe they should feel it is indecent. Bottels were invented for a reason. USE THEM. and how did we get off on formula. Thats a whole nother topic.

By the way, if you had walked up to me and said a negative word as I sat on a bench with a blanket over me as I fed my child, I would've decked you. Trust me, I am not the only one.

And I would have sued you for battery.

If my kids were walkign with me and a woman were sitting there NOT COVERED UP feeding I would have made sure she heard me tell my kids what a white trash slob thing that is to do.

I do have a few questions for you though. How would your mother feel about your conversation here if she knew? Would she be as understanding? Or would she be as offended as the rest of this panel? Just wondering.

Lets ask her... Well, just got off the phone.

Here is the convo. and I quote

Me: We are having a discussion about breastfeeding in publick places like a theme park. What do you have to say about it?

Her: There are special bankets for brestfeeding and a woman should use them. If she does not wish to use a blanket then there is the option of pumping the milk into a bottle for use. A woman should not display her breast in public for ANY reason.

So now you know what my mother thinks, Happy?

So that's my two cents on this matter. Feel free to spend it or save it for a rainy day....

I think I'll trade it in for a breast pump.

What you and everyone else seem to be looking over is that I am NOT aginst breastfeeding in public. I am aginst the women that DON'T COVER UP. And AGAIN I say since there are so many women that don't, then there should be a place for them to go feed in private.

So by your "definition" of "indecent exposure," you would be able to jack off to a woman who is naturally breastfeeding, but not be able to jack off to a Brittany Spears video, eh?

Um... WTF???? Who said anything about jacking off to a woman breastfeeding? You need help.

And tell us, "o wise one," how are you going to explain to your horny 13 year old son not to stare at a 19 year old college girl in a bikini, especially after he says aloud, "Wow, she has some nice tits!"

My son will be raised properly and know better to
1) not say out loud "Wow, she has some nice tits!"
2) not stare
3) to answer your question. I would explain to him that it is wrong to stare. She me be beautiful but to stae and gock at her is wrong. If you like her, go talk to her.

See, thats how I was raised. Back in the day when parents DID their job. Back when you taught morals and decency. Right from wrong. When kids were taught that it's not right to wear your pants around your knees.

Head Mouse you said you and your fiancee are about to have your first child--some folks would say it's indecent to have a child when you are not married.

Yeah cuz thats exactly the same as flashing your private parts in public.

Besides we're getting married in a few weeks. And no we're not gettign married JUST becasue of the baby. We had this date picked for a while.

The main problem I reiterate is that amusement parks have many types of guests. Would a woman do this in front of a priest, rabbi or minister? I doubt it but they do it openly in a public area. There are people in the parks who for what ever reason are not supposed, should not or do not want to see topless women or breastfeeding women. These people have to way to avoid violating their religious and/or moral beliefs. I have known religious ladies who breastfed their kids and they never ever would just bare it all for the world to see. Also I do not want to see anyone's bare chest when I am eating. It I did then I would find me a strip club and take my lunch there.

EXACTLY!!! I think it would be best put by saying...

IF YOU WOULDN'T DO IT IN CHURCH, then don't do it in public.

[idratherbeinwdw]

[font=Comic Sans MS]I can see we are dealing with stone age mentality when it comes to you Head Mouse. I have but one thing left to say: Your fiancee has my strong condolences.[/font] :barf: