What gives you the right?

Big Wallaby · Post by **Big Wallaby** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:07 pm

Last night, I was working at the Epcot platform, at the front cab, helping guests who were riding in the front cab, etc. A family of three comes up and gets in, two adults and one child. Another mother starts pushing her kids up and asks if they can ride. I explain the four person policy and she, like so many before, responds that her two kids can count as one. No, ma'am, if you have a pulse you are one person here. I can take one of her kids. She comes up to inspect the front cab, turns around and tells me loudly enough that everyone around can hear, "Well, you should kick one of the adults out." I start working to form an answer that is nice enough that if she reports me, anything mean she says will be exaggeration and I can back myself up, also so that if she reports me I can have said something somewhat unique that will jog my memory if I have to explain myself. Within two seconds, she responds, "That's right, you don't speak English."

I pointed to the door at Car 1, and she went back and sat there. Her kids had done nothing rude, so I let one of them ride in the front cab, being sure to apologize all over myself to the other people there for that rude lady's conduct (and yes, in front of her son... maybe he can still be saved from a life as an SG). I wound up driving that train, so I was able to see them again at TTC. When the doors opened, in front of everyone in the car, I said to her, "You know, when you made your very rude comment, I was working to nicely respond to your question, but then you... Oh, sorry, I just forgot English again. I guess I can't explain anything to you, as you won't understand me anyway."

She must have known she was in the wrong, because she shuffled past, and I went about my business. Other guests were on the verge of laughing, as they had heard the entire exchange from their car.

GRUMPY PIRATE · Post by **GRUMPY PIRATE** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:23 pm

Sheesh, you shouldn't have to explain to SG's like that! Too bad they dont have a small camera that you can tuck it your pocket, and record the SG!

We were riding the Monorail from Poly to TTC, and on a whim, asked if we could ride up front. (we had asked several other times, but kids and parents had already been selected.)

The CM checked when it pulled in and we got on! There was another father with his little girl and she was having a great time, the father not so much!

The CM driving was doing his best to cheer up the dad. DW and I had a great time, talking with the Driver and generally getting some good pictures! (see album)

After they got out at MK, we asked if he wanted us to give up the seats for someone else, but he said to just stay put.

Had a good conversation with him (and gave him the SGT web site!!)

I don't understand WHY SG's think that they HAVE to have their kids experience every little extra bit. Do they think that the WHOLE trip will be ruined because timmy or tammy dosn't get to ride up front? (Don't answer, I already know!)

I think the last time we rode in the front was at DLR about twelve or thirteen years ago. A fun expreience but not mandatory for us to have a great vacation!

Just keep up the good work BW, don't let them get you down!!

joanna71985 · Post by **joanna71985** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:36 pm

Grrrr. I hate people who are like that! Just because it's WDW, why can't adults do fun things too? After all, adults are the ones who pay to get in (not kids). Walt meant the parks to be for people of all ages.

Big Wallaby · Post by **Big Wallaby** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:45 pm

At that moment (you don't speak English), I was working on something about at Disney World, everyone being a kid.

I don't let this get me down, or anything else. Not five minutes later, I had an awesome interaction with a guest that, I just happened to notice looking like she might need some help. Come to find out, she didn't, but it spawned an awesome conversation.

One purpose of bad people is to make it so that you appreciate the wonderful people you meet even more.

hobie16 · Post by **hobie16** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:20 pm

I've been going to Disneyland since 1956 and never knew what it took to ride in the front until it was brought up on this board. When we went to DL last October we asked the driver if we could and he ushered us right on. Totally cool!!

We got the front two more times in our three days there. Next time we're gonna try the back. :D:

felinefan · Post by **felinefan** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:58 pm

I haven't been to DLR in so long, I'm not sure if I ever rode the Monorail, but it's possible--we went to DL often when I was a kid--back when parking was 50 cents and adult admission was like $2, seniors and military in uniform $1.75, juniors (over 11 years) got in for 75 cents, 3-11 was 50 cents, and under 3 was free. And it wasn't I got on this site that I found out you can ride in the cab of the monorail.

And no, I didn't have a dinosaur as a pet. :p:

ktulu · Post by **ktulu** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:46 pm

hobie16 wrote:I've been going to Disneyland since 1956 and never knew what it took to ride in the front until it was brought up on this board. When we went to DL last October we asked the driver if we could and he ushered us right on. Totally cool!!

We got the front two more times in our three days there. Next time we're gonna try the back. :D:

The back was awesome! I had a sleeping 3 yr old, nice A/C blowing and no SG's to deal with!

Tater · Post by **Tater** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:35 pm

Okay that's it, this is my first post, but no one picks on a fellow Oregonian without a fight (Rock on BW).

This summer my family and I were able to sit in the front of the monorail twice. Both times we got to the top of the platform and the front line was empty so we asked if we could ride in front. It would never occur to me to split up, why would you want to separate from your kids while at WDW? Aren't you there to experience the magic with them?

I know this sounds old fashioned, but I would rather wait in line longer with my family than separate to get on any ride/transportation faster. Is it wrong that I actually like my Family?

Anyway, keep your chin up BW, it's CM's like you that make the magic going for the rest of us.

Syndrome · Post by **Syndrome** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:46 pm

Sorry you have to deal with SGs like that, BW, and good for you to stick up for the adults. Although we don't do it much now that we're local, Mr. Syndrome and I always used to do a front-car monorail ride during each trip when we visited as tourists. If some entitlement-minded SG tried to make me feel guilty because I was taking up a seat that her kid could occupy, I'd tell her to bite my shiny metal ass.

Whazzup · Post by **Whazzup** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:29 pm

Tater wrote:Okay that's it, this is my first post, but no one picks on a fellow Oregonian without a fight (Rock on BW).

This summer my family and I were able to sit in the front of the monorail twice. Both times we got to the top of the platform and the front line was empty so we asked if we could ride in front. It would never occur to me to split up, why would you want to separate from your kids while at WDW? Aren't you there to experience the magic with them?

I know this sounds old fashioned, but I would rather wait in line longer with my family than separate to get on any ride/transportation faster. Is it wrong that I actually like my Family?

Anyway, keep your chin up BW, it's CM's like you that make the magic going for the rest of us.

Welcome, Tater, from another Oregonian. :locomotiv I couldn't find the monorail smiley, sorry.
Glad to have you aboard. Obviously you've been lurking if you know BW was an Oregonian, too. Hope to see you posting again soon. :cheerldr:

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