ash falling on the DLR

SRT_GB · Post by **SRT_GB** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:58 am

Before I begin my gripe I just want to say that my thoughts and prayers are with those who have been affected by the socal wildfires. My crappy experience today is nothing compared to what those people have been through.

For those of you who aren't aware, the wildfires in socal mixed with the winds have caused ash to fall over the DLR the last couple days. It's also caused most of Orange County to smell like smoke. So today some lower level managers, looking out for their cast members' safety, provided their cast members with dust/particle masks, or at least tried to. The cast members that were fortunate enough to get a mask were asked to take them off on order of a certain higher up manager, and the ones that didn't get masks just plain didn't get one. The reason they gave was that guests were complaining that they weren't getting them too.

I'm not too surprised that management would jeopardize the safety of its cast just to dodge the gripes of a few guests. But in the time I've been around, this is an all-time low. I'm not that upset that I didn't get one; I'm young and don't have any major health problems. I'm really mad they made my friends and co-workers who are asthmatic, old, or pregnant work in these conditions.

CujoSR · Post by **CujoSR** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:15 am

This is one of those oppertunitys that disney could make ALOT of money. Selling masks to the guests. Then again Pressler and Harris arn't around to jump on the idea. Hell they could have little mickeys on them or something.

SpaceRanger · Post by **SpaceRanger** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:45 am

Yea, it's been horrible. I've inhaled so much ash the past couple days that I've actually gotten sick from it. My lungs still hurt. I'm just glad that I have tomorrow off.

Max Fischer · Post by **Max Fischer** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:52 am

My GF and I were checking out of the GCH yesterday and we asked the bellhop why the bellhops and valet CMs aren't wearing masks and he said that their managers tried getting them for everyone, but that the health department wouldn't allow them to distribute them. ( I work part-time as an EMT, and we wear similar masks, and as dumb as this is, we have to be trained on them....)

The CM went on to say that the managers said 'screw it' and told the CMs just to wear them while they were running to pick up cars. The CM went on to say that guest were making comments about them, and basically bitching about why CMs needed them, blah blah.

My take on it is this. If you are working outdoors, then you should be protected. just like when you get an XRAY, the xray techs all wear lead aprons to protect themselves from the radiation exposure. The patients are never shielded in lead. Why? Well, just like the CMs, they are exposed to the danger ALL day, so they needed protection.

At least at the GCH the managment was looking out for the CMs, up to the point of knowingly getting fined by the health department.

Hope the fires are out soon.

Dante101 · Post by **Dante101** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:35 pm

Max Fischer wrote:...we asked the bellhop why the bellhops and valet CMs aren't wearing masks and he said that their managers tried getting them for everyone, but that the health department wouldn't allow them to distribute them.

Huh??? That just sounds like some bullsh*t excuse that they came up with. Why would they need approval from the health department to give out little paper masks??? They pass out ear plugs freely to the cast members. What's the difference? I mean an ear plug is something you actually put inside of your body! A mask is just a piece of paper over your nose and mouth!

I think it's like the first post said, that they thought it looked bad on the cast members, and they didn't want the guests to get concerned.

If the guests got concerned, they might stay inside their hotel rooms and avoid spending money. :roll:

Max Fischer · Post by **Max Fischer** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:08 pm

I am pretty sure that the problem lies with the fact that wearing a mask can impair your breathing if not worn correctly and used like it should be. I know that for the average person with a clue, it is not too big a deal to wear it, but another complication is the fact that they are wearing it at work, etc. etc. Ear plugs are a standard thing that doesn't interfere with life safety. The CM didn't seem like he was BS-ing me, he was pretty matter of fact. I guess it is a lose-lose situation, if they hand them out and someone dies as a result of an asthma attack they are screwed, if they don't make an attempt, they are screwed. What are you gonna do? It was pretty funny to see rich people run from their luxery cars and dash inside the lobby to avoid the ash.

Dante101 · Post by **Dante101** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:23 pm

I'm not saying the cast member was bullshi*ing YOU, I'm saying the cast member was most likely bullshi*ed to by his manager. There's no reason for the CM to lie to you about it.

But I say it's impossible for those little paper masks to suffocate anyone by putting them over your face - no matter how dumb a person can be.

PoohBunniesHutch · Post by **PoohBunniesHutch** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:04 am

And all training consists off (required when issuing protective equipment, not by the health department, but by OSHA) is how to put the dang thing on, when to use it, when not to use it. The trainer (the manager or whomever, don't need a rocket science degree to handle this one) gives the training, then everybody signs off and the paper validating the training gets filed until some OSHA inspector comes around and asks to see all the training logs for protective equipment. Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah....

GMC · Post by **GMC** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:05 pm

This is sort of a dated post topic, but summer is giveing way to fall very soon, which means dry season, maeing this will happen agian soon, well last i heard it's happening now, but not as proximal to the property as these. to give those of you and idea of how close some of these are, picture disneyland, go east on ball or katella, (the streets on the north and south ends of disneyland) for about 10 miles, then go into the hills, the fires, if i'm not mistaken, or at least the ones i rember pouring ash on the area, are on the other side of those hills.

i used to work at a sandwhich/ice cream shop at the base of the hills, and i remeber the smoke being so bad that we couldn't see 1/4 mile down the road, and that when we left, we tied our aprons around our facesand wore sunglasses (as goggles) at 945 pm to keep the ash out of our eyes, i doubt if it was that bad at Disenyland, just because there's about 10 miles of civilization between my old job and disney, and that my job was near a low point in the hills, so the smoke was probly comming right through it. i also rember opening my locker at school (which happened about twice a year) and there was nice layer of ash on everything inside. it' really wierd whenever the smake from one of our fires blows your way, because it felects the red of the fire, and casts an eerie shade on everything, and when you go indoors to where there's normal light everythign looks blue, beause everything outside is cast in red and orange.

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