Stroller Fights...

[Big Wallaby]

They'd better...

[Tinker Bell]

I agree. I can't tell you how often I have read trip reports from people who say "My child had a bad case of the mumps (or chickenpox, or whatever) but we just got them a stroller and went to the parks anyway. I guess they just like to spread the wealth to everyone else they come in contact with.

My computer is no longer clean, as I have sprayed :coke: all over it.

[February]

Ugh, I could write an entire book about stupid guest. . .germs!

This is exactly how I ended up with chicken pox in my first month of pregnancy (after two previous miscarriages too) went to WDW. . .brought home the, er, bun, and the pox. I hadn't even had a positive test yet when I broke out, but god I thought I was going to die.

I was very lucky my baby was born healthy- they didn't know if she had fingers or toes until the day she was born because she hid them on the ultrasound.

So yeah, thanks to whoever brought their sick kid to WDW back then.

We got sick halfway through our last trip too- people all over the Poly sounded like they were dying of something- and day four, we sounded like it too :/

I'm hoping hoping next trip will go better. I have so many health problems already, getting other people's nasty viruses during the trip is just insult to injury!

Speaking of strollers, can we please talk about how ridiculous it is- the monorail station at the CR? Our worst SGT moment on our last trip happened there.

I forget if I told this here already so if I did forgive me.

We were going to CG for dinner, all dressed up, coming from Poly on the monorail. I'm in the wheelchair, right- and we get to the station and my husband pushes me onto the elevator. Now, we have my daughter and my elderly dad with us (he is a stroke survivor too but won't use a scooter- and so he ambles along.)

Some complete byotch pushes her double wide stroller into the elevator behind my chair, cutting off my dad and nearly running over my daughter.

We get into the elevator and I hear my daughter saying "Wait, mom!" and I try to get my husband to back the chair out but by that point we're stuck.

I turn to the woman and say, "Wait, they're with me," and she looks at me and says, "Well, they can wait."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The look she gave me was the worst. I swear, I almost skipped dinner, I was so upset. That elevator is not for people too lazy to fold up their damned strollers. It's for chairs and scooters.

They really need to do something- that station is a NIGHTMARE. and ALL of the monorail stations should have elevators- those ramps are ridiculous. I'm glad we're staying at a non-monorail resort next time, the busses will be better!

MCP

[Cheshire Figment]

They really need to do something- that station is a NIGHTMARE. and ALL of the monorail stations should have elevators- those ramps are ridiculous. I'm glad we're staying at a non-monorail resort next time, the buses will be better!

The monorail station at CR was originally not designed as accessible. Remember that the original loops were put in prior to ADA. Also, the Epcot ramp at TTC just barely meets the ADA minimum requirements, and that is because there are flat "pause areas" along the ramp. The elevator was put in as a retrofit about ten years ago.

Before that if you were in a chair or ECV you could not use the CR Monorail Station at all.

Judy had a phobia against any down escalator and long up escalators, so normally we would have to exit at the end of the station to take the stairs.

So having the elevator the way it is was the only thing they could do without shutting down the entire monorail system. And if I recall, it took several months to put in.

[February]

The monorail station at CR was originally not designed as accessible. Remember that the original loops were put in prior to ADA. Also, the Epcot ramp at TTC just barely meets the ADA minimum requirements, and that is because there are flat "pause areas" along the ramp. The elevator was put in as a retrofit about ten years ago.

Before that if you were in a chair or ECV you could not use the CR Monorail Station at all.

Judy had a phobia against any down escalator and long up escalators, so normally we would have to exit at the end of the station to take the stairs.

So having the elevator the way it is was the only thing they could do without shutting down the entire monorail system. And if I recall, it took several months to put in.

Yeah, we started going to WDW in 1971 so I remember the old loop and all- but it seems to me with all the other reno they've been doing at CR (tearing down my beloved north wing. . .*sob*) that this would have been the time for them to figure out how to add another elevator!

That station is already a nightmare according to the CM's we talked to last trip (as you can tell from my nick here I'm monorail obsessed) and when they add the Vacation club building. . .yikes.

The epcot ramp is so bad that I'm actually relieved we're staying at a bus hotel next time. My poor husband- he pushes my chair because my balance is so bad I can't drive an ECV anymore- he has to be my motor. He has to wait until he has a straight shot up that ramp to push me up in one run- I'm not big, mind you, but if he stops at those rest points he finds it much harder than just going all the way up.

of course we are grateful the elevator is there now!

I always feel so bad when they have to get the ramp out for my chair too because they told us that a ridiculously high amount of workers comp claims in the transportation department come from hauling those ramps :(

Again, will be glad to be at a bus hotel next time. Also whenever I'm able to do it (some days I can, some days I can't) I have the luxury of being able to get out of the chair and fold it up so they don't have to go through the whole process of strapping me in- hopefully will be able to do that on our next trip most of the time to save the CM's the trouble. I just hate inconveniencing anyone and would rather get up if at all possible so they can save their energy for the guests who don't have the option like I do.

MCP

[mechurchlady]

The ramp from hell is not a pretty site and was a downfall and sad point of my trip. DLR has elevators so why would a new park with lots of land not have elevators. Maybe it is an evil plot to kill kids on heelies and old people. I will never get there but if I did then I would have to take the ferry again or walk. Sheer stupidity and after knowing that Disney is monitoring this and all sites that mention Disney I am befuddled by their insensitivity to disabled guests as well as all guests.

[Shorty82]

The ramp from hell is not a pretty site and was a downfall and sad point of my trip. DLR has elevators so why would a new park with lots of land not have elevators. Maybe it is an evil plot to kill kids on heelies and old people. I will never get there but if I did then I would have to take the ferry again or walk. Sheer stupidity and after knowing that Disney is monitoring this and all sites that mention Disney I am befuddled by their insensitivity to disabled guests as well as all guests.

From everything I've read WDW is one of the most handicap friendly places anywhere. The ramps at the TTC and MK monorail stations are about the only less-than-friendly areas I've ever heard of. I've heard that the way those stations are designed there is no way of redoing the ramps or adding in elevators without tearing down the entire station. That is why they haven't changed.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

From everything I've read WDW is one of the most handicap friendly places anywhere. The ramps at the TTC and MK monorail stations are about the only less-than-friendly areas I've ever heard of. I've heard that the way those stations are designed there is no way of redoing the ramps or adding in elevators without tearing down the entire station. That is why they haven't changed.

When we were there we notice MANY people in ECV's and wheelchairs that seemed to have no problem getting around. the only thing that I am amazed at is that they don't have a ramp or ramps at the monorail stations that the CM's could deploy or retract, to assist the ECV's and wheelchairs in boarding.

(I mean a fixed ramp, not the portable ones.)

[February]

It's one of those things that doesn't seem that bad or to be a big deal unless you've personally dealt with it.

Try those ramps at the end of a hot day after pushing the wheelchair all over the park.

A lot of people on ECVs get around fine cause they have a motor running their little vehicle- but for some of us with neurological issues (and others) ECVs are no longer an option. The local companies will not rent electric chairs to those who do not use them full time, I guess it's too dangerous and hard to use them or that's what they told me.

I find it hard to believe, honestly, that if Imagineering can come up with a way to rip down the North Tower of the CR and build a big behemoth there that will dwarf the original architecture (yes I'm just a tad bitter about that) while not disturbing the surrounding underground infrastructure of the MK (or so they claim and so we hope) that they sure as hell could find a way to put a elevator at the rest of the monorail stations.

Even if they had to build a little separate building and put a bridge across. Come on, people. This is Disney. Whatever happened to "if we can dream it we can do it?"

I don't believe they'd have to tear down the whole station that just sounds like code for 'we don't wanna and we ain't gonna until it becomes impossible for us to avoid doing so.'

My husband is convinced the reason the ramps remain as they are is for crowd control. . .and he's an engineer. He has tons of ideas for things that they can still do at WDW to make it more accessable.

Though we are a huge fan of the hydraulic busses!

[mechurchlady]

Disney goes out of its way for the disabled and has excellent disabled services. The problem is that the only way to get on the monorail for some people like me is to go to a hotel. Disney can build Pirates outside of the train tracks. Disney can build mountains. Disney cannot put in an elevator for disabled guests so that they can ride the monorails. I do not remember every having ridden them. I got to the top of that ramp dazed and confused so I went back down in pain and to tired to go on. It messed up my vacation and I should have been able to ride the monorail many times but could not because it is not handicapped accessible. It is sad that one of the most handicapped friendly parks hates disabled guests so much as to deny them access to the monorail.