STCU Negotiations 2010

[glendalais]

And in an update, Full Time Service Trade Council Union Members have rejected the proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement. Exact numbers have yet to be released.

Further negotiations are scheduled between the Company and STCU

[IndyandMarion]

Apparently 600 dollars and a rare white elk appearance of Park Managers wasn't enough to get people to buy off on that.

[glendalais]

Local media are reporting that the Service Trades Council Union has agreed with the Company to an extension of the current Full Time Collective Bargaining Agreement past it's expiration date on the weekend.

[glendalais]

New negotiations were held between the Company and STCU yesterday, 27 October. The Company proposed a copy of the same CBA rejected by STCU Full Time Members at their recent ballot, with the omission of the $100 Bonus to be paid upon ratification.

The STCU Member Union negotiating teams have rejected this proposed contract by majority vote amongst themselves.

The current extension of the existing STCU CBA expires on 8 November.

[ectomstr]

New negotiations were held between the Company and STCU yesterday, 27 October. The Company proposed a copy of the same CBA rejected by STCU Full Time Members at their recent ballot, with the omission of the $100 Bonus to be paid upon ratification.

"Well, they didn't like your propsed CBA. So It needs fixing."

"wow, ok. well..*scritch-scritch, X's out the $100 bonus* Since it wasn't voted, here's the update!"

"You gotta be kiddin' right? GTFO and GBTW!"

Honestly, dropping one thing and making no changes? Ugh....too bad I'm just in F&B so I don't have total access to everything being said to everyone. Looking to transfer literally, right around the time this contract ends.

Edited:Not transferring due to the contract but because of what I DO, I finally can move on stage and I'm taking that opportunity. This leaves my door open to...whatever (hoping for Front Desk or Merchandise) and seeing as I could possibly still be in F&B or...elsewhere, I don't wanna commit to something awesome and then get screwed in the transfer.

[mapo]

New negotiations were held between the Company and STCU yesterday, 27 October. The Company proposed a copy of the same CBA rejected by STCU Full Time Members at their recent ballot, with the omission of the $100 Bonus to be paid upon ratification.

The STCU Member Union negotiating teams have rejected this proposed contract by majority vote amongst themselves.

The current extension of the existing STCU CBA expires on 8 November.

Historically, the Company has always offerred the best agreement on the first iteration. The cast should have just agreed and blamed their negotiation team for not getting better terms before the vote!

Too bad about losing the incentive. However, I still think that this is the best option you are going to see going forward.

Let me put this another way. The US economy is in the worst state it has been since the Depression, in my opinion. Other statisticians and labor types here in the US and abroad agree. Why not just vote YES and keep your jobs ??

When I was still in STCU years ago, we went to the third offerring for a vote. Basically it became ratify this crappy agreement or the Union was threatening strike. The Company very wisely kept hacking away at their offer in response to a negative vote.

Union reps strongly encouraged a YES at that time. They stood up and said "Who here can afford losing a day's pay? If we strike, you would have to expect to be out of work at least a week before the Company would even remotely feel a pinch"

I stood up and told the crowd flatly. "If we do not ratify, I will turn in my Union card. I will not pay one more red cent in dues. Then I will happily cross that picket line multiple times and work every shift available. I will gladly soak up the overtime available by a strike move. This Union will not be paying my bills and the only people who will be hurt are those on the picket line." Then I picked up my belongings, grabbed my ballot, and walked out in front of everyone to cast my YES vote.

While those that vote NO will be missed, the guest experience will still be the highest priority. Non STCU cast will fill those voids easily. Within a week Casting can have those roles filled with new bodies, there are people who need jobs in Central Florida.

**Disclaimer: No, I am not involved in the labor negotiations for the STCU contract. These comments are mine and not representative of Disney Corp. I am just trying to demonstrate that we have been here before and these are some of the realities one should consider.

mapo

[kcberlin]

While I have nno stake in this whatsoever, I thought it time to put in my two cents. I think that many years ago when there were issues with child labor and sweatshops that unions in general had a purpose. I now believe that they are there strictly to line their own pockets.

The government has so many protections in place for employees these days that being any kind of large employer you are essentially screwed. You can't fire employees without the threat of lawsuits for discrimination of some form.

The fact that the current administration now requires any business that does any federal government work to post signage saying it is every employees right to form a union, yet they will not allow unions in the government just goes to show how bass ackwards things are.

Sorry, I'll step off of my conservative soapbox now. :)

[jerlove]

Well said Mapo and KCBerlin.

Unions had thier time and need........ 2010 is not that time.

[DragonFox98]

Mapo and KBerlin, great points. I agree that unions once had their time and place. Having been on the management side of things for a really long time - I only see that they are a detriment to the employee. First, they make you pay dues but you really don't get anything for it. As KBerlin said, in this country, there are so many labor laws you are automatically protected. Second, my interactions with union leadership has been nothing but awful. They are usually the smarmiest people with a "holier-than-thou" attitude. One of the votes I was involved in neither management (me & the rest of my staff) or leadership were allowed near the office during the vote. Don't you know our security cameras caught union leadership not only on property, but in the doorway of the office encouraging the vote. Needless to say, even though the vote to form the union was negative, the union got in to serious trouble for violating the rules.

Medical costs are skyrocketing. It sucks, but it's happening to everyone across the board. Also, here in NJ blue and white collar workers alike are either having their pay cut (furlough days) or they are not receiving raises.

So, that's just my opinion. Yes, I'm sure there are lots of things in the new contract that suck, but as MAPO said, the economy is horrible everywhere. And she's right about management's reactions as well....I can honestly say I would chisel the offer away little by little every time there is a no vote.

[hobie16]

...yet they will not allow unions in the government just goes to show how bass ackwards things are.

The federal employees have something called the Civil Service Commission that represents them. Outside the federal government, most employees are considered at will and can fired on the spot.

Firing federal employees can take years with all the process, including hearings, going to court, appeals, etc.

Once you're in and have a GS rating, you're gold.