Page 3 of 5
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:34 pm
by Purpura
Let's just say that this Star Tours ride is actually a bloop in R2 and C3PO's programming and they are 'dreaming this' while actually they're being reprogrammed to not remember that they're stuck in an alternate universe. *giggle*
I always said that Captain Rex, was continuously being visited after hours by a Sith Saboteur. Hehe
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:11 pm
by Disneyguy85
Freak wrote:...So, in closing, I'm a big loser and even bigger nerd. Thank you, and goodnight.
Easy there buddy, relax. ;)
At any rate, I am very excited about the new Star Tours ride.

Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:18 pm
by Freak
I'm not trying to...the diehard Star Wars fans will be quick to point out these issues, though. I've never let any of these issues bother me to the point where I won't ride the attraction, and I damn sure don't talk about it while I'm in the park. I enjoyed Star Tours for what it was, and will enjoy Star Tours II for what it is. But some fans will tear it apart and tell you its a terrible ride based on continuity alone.
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:54 pm
by BRWombat
Maybe they could've explain the inconsistencies by having us step off the transport to find Bobby Ewing in a shower. It was all a dream...
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:01 pm
by Freak
Haha, oh that'd be traumatizing. :p:
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:07 pm
by kurtisnelson
Cheshire Figment wrote:This is just the same as the plot killer for one of the best movies ever made. In Citizen Kane it was clear at the start that Kane was completely alone when he died. How did anyone know that "Rosebud" was his last word?
I'm not sure anyone, including the people in the movie, cares if/what/how/why he said rosebud, because I sure didn't.

Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:11 pm
by Disneyguy85
Freak wrote:But some fans will tear it apart and tell you its a terrible ride based on continuity alone.
Only the critical message boards folks, and they really don't matter in the long-run. ;)
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:27 am
by Freak
So I just found something that I'm super excited about if it gets made....
Star Tours Starspeeder 1000 "Large Scale" playset.
So, why am I super excited? Large Scale playset should read as "Vehicle that will be in scale with Hasbro's Star Wars Action Figure line." After ALL this time, I'm finally going to get a (couple...I'm not lying...I'm gonna buy like 3 or 4) scaled Starspeeder 1000 to put R2 and Captain Rex into, and the other ones I buy can be repainted into StarSpeeder 3000. I've only wanted one of these since I went on Star Tours when I was a kid.
SO EXCITED. I may sound like a jerk, but I'm buying quite a few of these when they put them in the parks.
Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:07 am
by Disneyguy85
Freak wrote:SO EXCITED. I may sound like a jerk, but I'm buying quite a few of these when they put them in the parks.
Aw, there's nothing wrong with that. Besides, Disney will love you for it.

Re: New Star Tours video
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:32 am
by Rob562
Freak wrote:Yeah, I've always forgotten to mention that. And R2 being inside the astromech socket further promotes thinking that this took place after teh Battle of Endor.
WARNING: STAR WARS NERD POST FOLLOWS
Star Tours DOES take place after RotJ. And yes, we're apparently fighting the "Death Star III" (It's not the Death Star II, since DSII had a reactor core, and was only half-built, versus this DS, which is fully built and has an exhaust port ala DSI) which isn't really hanging out by Endor, it's a ways off since we pass through an asteroid belt.
Even though through most books and other EU (Expanded Universe) sources that I know of, the Empire collapsed after the Battle of Endor. The remaining forces were known as the Imperial Remnant which had little to no power in the universe for ~7 years after the Battle of Endor. No way they had enough money/power/infrastructure to build ANOTHER Death Star AND have a fleet or two of Star Destroyers to hang around the completed DS. Not to mention the first Death Star took ~15 years to complete, and the second Death Star took roughly ~5. No way they hammered out a third one in a couple months. It could be considered a Habitation Sphere which was converted into a Death Star...but that falls out of the realm of real canonocity since Habitation Spheres aren't really discussed in detail. They were basically Death Stars sans the laser, but had the ability of being converted into a much weaker version of Death Star...
Other things that have always bothered me:
-Why does a civilian class transport have shields and laser cannons powerful enough to destroy a snubfighter? At best they should have some low power cannons capable of destroying debris...nothing more since that would be considered a pirate/smuggler/illegal craft.
-Why would the Imperials open fire on a third-party tour bus who so happened to drop into a skirmish? (Unless the third-party company was sympathetic to the Rebellion, which I do believe they are..explained later)
-When the X-Wing pilot fires off his torpedoes in Star Tours, the torpedoes explode on impact much like Red Leader's torpedoes did in A New Hope when they didn't go in, just impacted on the surface...which would mean the shot was not a direct hit.... (Turns out that trench run footage WAS from A New Hope by the way)
-How and why did R2 and 3PO end up here? The company must have Rebellion ties.
-How does R2-D2 end up in the astromech socket of the StarSpeeder 3000 if he was in Luke's fighter for the DS1 and on Endor for the DS2 battle?
So, in closing, I'm a big loser and even bigger nerd. Thank you, and goodnight.
I know I've read an official backstory to Star Tours somewhere that answers at least a few points that you raised... Though I'm blanking on where it was. I don't think it was the Imagineering book, it may have been a Star Wars or ILM book at work (I work in a university library).
The gist of it is that after the Battle of Endor, peace spread throughout the galaxy. With the Empire gone, leisure travel prospered. R2D2 and C3PO eventually found themselves working for one of these companies, Star Tours.
As you said, the dialog in the queue supports the current attraction's post-RotJ timeline: C3PO talks about his encounter with the Ewoks and how they thought he was a god; the Hoth commercial shown in the queue refers to the "famed Echo Base of the Rebellion forces" as if it were now a tourist destination; C3PO talks about not wanting to "go back to that iceberg, no matter how safe it is now".
But apparently the Empire wasn't totally eliminated, as unknown to everyone they were hidden away, regrouping, building another Death Star. And that's where the current attraction picks up.
-Rob