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Re: Scary Regulars

Post by Princess Susi » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:47 pm

CMGUY89 wrote:As someone who has dealt with Persons With Learning Disabilities and Mental Illness his entire life I caution against starting a witch hunt. From what I've heard you describe these people are not dangerous. They are just eccentric and most likely have some sort of mental illness. Using derogatory terms like "funny farm" is offensive to me an demeaning to these people. Last I checked being weird and creepy was not a reason to "lock someone up". They are obviously not functioning at full-mental capacity. The thing that separates them from people with disorders like down's syndrome is that they are not cute, therefore they are deemed dangerous. My brother, who has long been diagnosed with a variety of disorders, was recently fired for a job for talking about barbecuing. They interpreted it as he was a pyro who wanted to burn down the building. So again I caution you against jumping to conclusions and trivializing these people and their conditions.

Well said, young man. That being said, they do have to differentiate between the developmentally disabled, autistic and other metal disabilities and the truly scary stalkers. I think one can pretty much tell when someone is developmentally disabled and a creepy stalker guy or gal. It can be pretty obvious sometimes. Maybe not so much other times.

But I don't like the terms funny farm and other words other folks use like retard or . It IS demeaning and has no place in our society. We need to learn to be accepting of those who have such disabilities. They are members of our society and many of the developmentally disabled lead fairly normal lives with a job abnd relationships often. I see folks like these on the city bus often and they are going to work at Wal-Mart or another job and often times have their boyfriend or girlfriend with them. I always get into interesting discussions with them because they see the world differently than I and I can learn from them.

I don't think you need to worry so much about your son, DisneyMom. He is a great kid. Very friendly and he seems to know what he is doing. Like the Jazmine thing, when he said to me, he thought she was hot, he blushed and laughed like a *cool guy* would and it looked to me like he KNEW she was a Disney character. I felt like he did not have any question about it. He is such a great kid and so friendly. He does love hugs. He and Ralph hit it off so well and they are buddies for sure. He likes to give Ralph hugs, but that is cool cause Ralph likes to hug too.

In some ways Ralph is very childlike. His brain was changed by the accident and he has a tendency to act childlike sometimes as well. Disneymom will tell you, I think she has noticed the traits there. He can be very petulant and have a temper tantrum (sorta). He is incredibly stubborn and has to do things in order and must do only one thing at a time or he gets confused. Very childlike sometimes...interesting to be his mate when I feel like his mother sometimes in these instances and have a little reality check on how to handle him as his wife, not mother. It gets strangely interesting to me. I have to try to figure out how I must react to a situation where a mom would usually be handling it, but he is with me, not his mom (thank God!) There are all kinds of people inthe world and it makes for an interstingplace and we must be careful to not judge so quickly and harshly those that are different from us or just different or eccentric in general. The true creepy stalkers and bad people stick out more than the others. I was stalked once as well when I worked in radio as the morning drive DJ, and he was pretty much harmless, but he was creepy. In the end we took care of the situation and he never bothered me again, but while I was being stalked I feared the worst. I will tell that story on this thread sometime. Right now my fingys are tired from typing and my back and knees are hurting real bad so I need to lie down.
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P.S. You are a sensitive and bright young man CM Guy and you have more maturity than most young people these days. :)


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Re: Scary Regulars

Post by CMGUY89 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:03 pm

Princess Susi wrote: P.S. You are a sensitive and bright young man CM Guy and you have more maturity than most young people these days. :)
Thanks Susi... :o: You're making me blush.


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Post by EeyoresButterfly » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:23 pm

I'm going into special ed, so please don't think I'm trying to judge people with mental illnesses. I'm referring specifically to people whose behavior is beyond the pail. With Ear Plug Boy the problem was when he became a bona fide stalker. I've heard of both Linda and Towel Baby becoming verbally abusive with CMs (Linda to the point security had to be called.) There are certainly people with mental challenges who come to the park on a regular basis and may exhibit behaviors that are not what would be considered normal, these are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the ones that for one reason or another have caused concern among some of the cast members. As a former friend of the characters, I agree that there is a difference between harmless and creepy. Somebody who tracks down specific friends of the characters or attempts to touch characters inappropriately is not harmless in my book.


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Re: Scary Regulars

Post by DisneyMom » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:17 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence for my son,Susi, and as for Ralph, he is really cool and funny, and very nice! We think he's great! :)
Close to the situation,though, we always wonder how it will be when we're not there.... :(


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Post by CMGUY89 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:18 pm

I understand what you mean. It is perfectly fine to be an educated CM and keep yourself out of a threatening situation. But to just lump people into a group as "creepy" and to want to put a signs up to watch out for them or thinking that they all need caretakers to watch them 24/7 is unnecessary. If there is a situation that becomes unsafe you call for a manager and security. I was just suggesting that some people look a little deeper than these people's actions. The towel baby people sound like they were severely traumatized by their baby's death. In that case I would say just go with it as best you can, especially if questioning it will escalate the situation.


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Post by EeyoresButterfly » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:28 pm

In the case of a guest like Towel Baby, I would have no problem with informing CMs in areas they frequent of the kind of behavior they should expect. From what I understand of the couple, they get very agitated and even abusive if the CM does not refer to the towel as an actual baby. By alerting the CMs ahead of time, the CMs will know how best to act around the couple to keep from upsetting them or causing a situation. The same could be said for Linda. Since we have had to call security on her before for abusive behavior, I see nothing wrong with letting CMs know to keep a bit of an eye on her in case there is a problem. That is the difference between being proactive and reactive, and preventing a situation vs. causing one.


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Re: Scary Regulars

Post by hobie16 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:32 pm

One thing to remember about mentally challenged kids and adults is there is usually no gray areas for them. They are either on or off. That's why they are overly affectionate.

My stepson was born with a number of problems including, "...a shunted hydrocephalus since birth. The early dilation of cerebral ventricles with ensuing high pressures has resulted in a lifelong learning disability..."

We have him in a condo in Lahaina so he can learn to live on his own with minimal help. He walks Front Street (the main drag) a lot and has many friends. Some have voiced concerns about him being a stalker to my wife. She tells them when he considers you a friend he will hang around a lot. You can't be subtle with him so if you need him to leave, tell him, and he will move on. He will not take it badly.

So, with the kids and adults that have issues, a polite, but firm, "I have to go." should work fine. The real stalkers should be hit with security or, if the situation requires, a firm RIN.


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Post by EeyoresButterfly » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:59 pm

RIN? I know in at least one case Ear Plug Boy was indeed banned for a year for his stalking behavior (which as I mentioned included tracking down personal addresses and phone numbers :eek :)


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Re: Scary Regulars

Post by hobie16 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:09 pm

EeyoresButterfly wrote:RIN?
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Post by joanna71985 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:24 pm

EeyoresButterfly wrote:I'm going into special ed, so please don't think I'm trying to judge people with mental illnesses. I'm referring specifically to people whose behavior is beyond the pail. With Ear Plug Boy the problem was when he became a bona fide stalker. I've heard of both Linda and Towel Baby becoming verbally abusive with CMs (Linda to the point security had to be called.) There are certainly people with mental challenges who come to the park on a regular basis and may exhibit behaviors that are not what would be considered normal, these are not the people I am referring to. I am referring to the ones that for one reason or another have caused concern among some of the cast members. As a former friend of the characters, I agree that there is a difference between harmless and creepy. Somebody who tracks down specific friends of the characters or attempts to touch characters inappropriately is not harmless in my book.
EeyoresButterfly wrote:In the case of a guest like Towel Baby, I would have no problem with informing CMs in areas they frequent of the kind of behavior they should expect. From what I understand of the couple, they get very agitated and even abusive if the CM does not refer to the towel as an actual baby. By alerting the CMs ahead of time, the CMs will know how best to act around the couple to keep from upsetting them or causing a situation. The same could be said for Linda. Since we have had to call security on her before for abusive behavior, I see nothing wrong with letting CMs know to keep a bit of an eye on her in case there is a problem. That is the difference between being proactive and reactive, and preventing a situation vs. causing one.
Well said. :)


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