Stupid Guest Tricks

SRT_GB wrote:The room service guys got revenge on them by taking the room service order back downstairs but still charging the room for it (and room service is not cheap!).

I hope they doubled the tip.

I'll never understand why people enjoy making an ass out of themselves. I am a freshman and I am embarrassed to go to restaurants with groups of people my age as they usually end up screaming and running around like morons. Maybe that's why I feel lonely up here. Everyone wants to get drunk and be idiots. I just want to go back to WDW... :(

hobie16 wrote:Gotta ask, why do you really carry a gun? Have you ever been close to a high school/mall/main street shooting? They get lots a press but, in reality, are very few and far between. Have you ever received combat training? There's a big gap between talking about facing someone down with a gun and actually doing it.

Have you ever thought about what would happen if you got into a shoot out with someone out to do bad, spotted by the police as someone with a gun, and shot by them? In the heat of the moment there are very few questions asked and a lot of rounds expended.

Just wondering.

Fair enough questions.

Why do I carry a gun? Well, my employment places me in a very "unsafe" area in Miami. To get there I have to drive through some even worse areas. Some of our former employees have left on unfriendly terms and made some unfriendly threats. Thankfully none carried out to this point.

Have I ever been close to a shooting? A mass shooting, no thankfully. Single shootings? All the time. Actually, I can't wait to move out of this area once the real estate market gets back to reality.

Combat training? A little, not nearly enough I would think. Actually, I don't think there is any amount of training that can prepare you to shoot someone. I can only hope if the time ever came I would be able to take whatever action necessary to protect myself and my family. It's not something you can practice.

As for getting shot by the police, well yea that would suck. However, I have no intent on ever getting into a prolonged shootout. I'm not John Wayne, as soon as the opportunity presents itself, I'm heading for safety. I'm not a cop, as soon as they get there, my gun goes on the ground, and my hands go in the air. Realistically speaking I would suspect the shooting would be done long before the police showed up.

As for the fighting guests, the only issue (and minor at that) is that perhaps Disney could have waited until morning to kick them out.

ralanprod wrote:As for the fighting guests, the only issue (and minor at that) is that perhaps Disney could have waited until morning to kick them out.

I've been in this situation, as the manager on duty, though not a manager. I learned early on how to do it, and I did it multiple times, in the middle of the night. When you get a rowdy group and have to start comping rooms, that group needs to go. Now.

ralanprod wrote:Fair enough questions.

Why do I carry a gun? Well, my employment places me in a very "unsafe" area in Miami. To get there I have to drive through some even worse areas. Some of our former employees have left on unfriendly terms and made some unfriendly threats.

Now I understand. I had to go to Hunters Point Naval Ship Yard on occasion to work on systems the Coast Guard had installed on their cutters. Hunters Point is one of the worst neighborhoods in the Greater San Francisco Bay Area. There were a few times I thought about carrying protection but never did.

I'm sure I've said it before, but I have actually made that decision: That someone had done something so stupid at the wrong moment and if they didn't change the situation, they were going to die because I wasn't going to change the situation to save their lives. When the accident was averted, the were already as good as dead in my mind, except that they made the necessary correction to save their own lives. I know that I know that I know that had they not changed it themselves, they would have died, and I would have watched it happen, at the moment choosing to be impassive about what was going on, because now I had to worry about the lives of more people.

For that reason, I do believe that if, in order to save more lives, had I the gun, I could pull the trigger on someone. At that point, the decision has already been made and actions already set in motion that someone is going to die, I believe I could make that decision, because by firing off my weapon, I am not choosing that someone will die, but instead making the decision to direct who it is to minimize the casualties. For that reason, that I have measured it in my own conscience, I believe I would probably make a good concealed carry candidate. I've been through that fear... no, terror... and angst and horror and hopelessness at the moment that I decided I couldn't do anything but minimize the deaths. I have been through it to the point of where I had to do the same as squeezing the trigger, when I let off the brake and began accelerating to minimize the casualties on my bus, knowing full well I was about to end the lives of anyone in that little hatchback in front of me. I don't know what would happen in my head after the incident was over. I think I would continue the work, and it would hit me hours later. But that is the one part I don't know, didn't know and couldn't think about at those moments. When I made that decision in the past, it was split-second, and I didn't think about how I was going to feel afterward... although I know full well I probably would have needed psychological help. To pull that trigger would have to be a split-second decision because I had a clear shot and the time to make it happen, or I probably wouldn't be able to go through with it.

I have been in the room with enough people who have died now that death doesn't really scare me. The pain beforehand does, but at the moment of death, I am not afraid of dying myself or being there as someone else does.

God help me if I have to make that decision, but if it comes down to protecting more lives by ending one who has already made the decision that his life is over (like that guy in the mall in Omaha, to whom the newspapers have been much too sympathetic), then I am ready to protect multiple lives by taking out the one with the dead heart. And in that situation, I would do it like the police: Shoot to end the confrontation, no matter what that takes.

One more reason I am glad I am out of buses. Hopefully, I won't be in the place to make that decision because I am in a bus and someone does something stupid around me again. That is one of my reasons for getting out of buses. A minor reason, true, but it's one of them.

Geez, I hate these kinds of posts. Always darken my day a bit as I give thought to a moment I hope never comes.

Sorry, but there is no reason to have a weapon inside the parks.

SRT_GB wrote:Way back when DLR first implemented bag checks, we were allowed to call Security for off-duty police with concealed weapons and they would escort the person backstage to the security office and store it in their safe. Not sure if they still do that, or if they did it for any Joe Blow with a concealed weapon permit.

WDW did the same for a long time. Post 9/11 and bag checks, we started finding so many (legal) guns that a bank of 48 gun lockers were installed outside the bag check at Magic Kingdom.

Doubt that? Check out the lagoon side of the old Walk Around the World kiosk.

I'm just surprised we haven't done the same at the other parks yet.

Zazu wrote:WDW did the same for a long time. Post 9/11 and bag checks, we started finding so many (legal) guns that a bank of 48 gun lockers were installed outside the bag check at Magic Kingdom.

Doubt that? Check out the lagoon side of the old Walk Around the World kiosk.

I'm just surprised we haven't done the same at the other parks yet.

They do have services at DL, that I have used in the past. They are very helpful!!

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:Sorry, but there is no reason to have a weapon inside the parks.

It's really a circular arguement - There's also no reason to have a weapon in the mall or in church or a school.

That's the thing about crazy people - they don't always fit in with the plans we sane people have.

In the end, you are allowed to have any opinion you want about the subject. You aren't wrong just because I disagree. I'd be quite happy on my deathbed to be able to look back and say, "Well, I carried that damn gun around for 40 years and never once needed it."