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Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:45 pm
by Shorty82
Syndrome wrote:And I'll toss in a marginally on-topic question: Why is it people you're with get embarrassed if you tell people to put out their cig when they're in a non-smoking area? When I lived in IL back in the dark ages of smoking/non-smoking sections, smokers would light up in non on a fairly frequent basis. I'd either get a waitress to tell 'em to knock it off or do it myself if I was close enough. Mr. Syndrome is used to it and would probably tell 'em himself if I didn't first, but at times we were out with friends or family they'd want to crawl into a hole. I never figured out why...I am telling someone to follow the stinking rules. If anyone should be embarrassed, it's the smoker.
There's some CMs who won't tell somebody they can't smoke where they are because they are afraid of confrontation. I'm not one of them. I politely tell the guest that smoking isn't permitted where they are and point them in the direction of the nearest designated area. Only rarely do they get upset and yell at me about it, usually they'll put out the cigarette and move on.
That's another thing, sometimes I tell them they can't smoke somewhere and then they wonder where they can put it out. I want to tell them "should have thought of that BEFORE you lit up in the first place, because where were you going to dispose of the butt?"
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:56 pm
by hobie16
Shorty82 wrote:I want to tell them "should have thought of that BEFORE you lit up in the first place, because where were you going to dispose of the butt?"
That would require "thinking ahead."
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:22 pm
by GRUMPY PIRATE
Syndrome wrote:Good lord! Mind you, if someone lights up in a non-smoking area, I am the first one to tell 'em to put it out. But to lay into someone in an area where it's allowed, and then to grab the cig? Totally, utterly unacceptable. I too think she should have claimed assault. As much of an anti-smoking zealot as I am, I have a chain smoking brother so I do have sympathy for the darkside.
And I'll toss in a marginally on-topic question: Why is it people you're with get embarrassed if you tell people to put out their cig when they're in a non-smoking area? When I lived in IL back in the dark ages of smoking/non-smoking sections, smokers would light up in non on a fairly frequent basis. I'd either get a waitress to tell 'em to knock it off or do it myself if I was close enough. Mr. Syndrome is used to it and would probably tell 'em himself if I didn't first, but at times we were out with friends or family they'd want to crawl into a hole. I never figured out why...I am telling someone to follow the stinking rules. If anyone should be embarrassed, it's the smoker.
I think a lot of that comes from the fact that it used to be acceptable to smoke anywhere, and the non-smokers were the minority. I remember when eating establishments and other "public" places came up with the smoking/non smoking sections (like it was gonna stop the smoke at an invisable line!)
Ever check in for a airline flight and they asked you smoking or non-smoking? hehehehehe
and I was a smoker for many years! (had to go cold turkey, totally another story) to this day, whenever I smell someone smoking, it smells soooooo good!!)
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:54 pm
by hobie16
GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:and I was a smoker for many years! (had to go cold turkey, totally another story) to this day, whenever I smell someone smoking, it smells soooooo good!!)
I've always liked the smell of tobacco but when it's burning, bleaaccchhh!!
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:14 am
by Zazu
hobie16 wrote:That would require "thinking ahead."
Worse, that would require "thinking"!
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:36 pm
by joanna71985
I'm not a big fan of smoking (the smell makes me really sick), but I'm fine with people who go to the smoking location. However, that lady crossed the line. She had no right touching that other guest.
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:29 am
by Cheshire Figment
When I am working the gates at TL and someone approaches with a cigarette I will politely tell them that smoking is only permitted in designated areas of the Park, provide the person with a map and show them the symbol for the smoking areas, and point them to the only ashtray/smoking area outside the gates.
I have never had any Guest problems with this.
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:43 pm
by Big Wallaby
I've always done the thing of getting on the smoker's side when asking. Actually, I've found it works on *almost* anyone.
"I hate to have to ask this of you, but..."
Works like a charm. Except with that one in a hundred SG.
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:08 pm
by little skunk
Shorty82 wrote:There's some CMs who won't tell somebody they can't smoke where they are because they are afraid of confrontation.
I don't think a cast member should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are. Shorty82 I am not saying that you said cast members should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. If I was a cast member I believe that I would be afraid to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are.
Re: There is stupid, Criminally stupid, and then there's Death penalty stupid.
Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:52 pm
by GRUMPY PIRATE
little skunk wrote:I don't think a cast member should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are. Shorty82 I am not saying that you said cast members should have to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are, I just wanted to give my opinion on this. If I was a cast member I believe that I would be afraid to tell a guest that they can't smoke where they are.
If not a CM, then who? A lot of smokers simply don't know. They may come from states/countries where the rules allow smoking in public. If it is approached in a professional manner, there should be no problem in 99 out of 100 cases.