Calif. Woman Now Mom to 14 Children
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Both she and her mother have said she's been addicted to the idea of having kids since she was a teenager. She tried having them naturally, but her tubes were blocked. That's why she went with IVF. First she said she was gonna nurs all of them, now they're drinking donated breast milk. She wouldn't let her identity be known, then her mother's name came out, then hers came out. She wouldn't reveal who did the IVFs, and now that's out. Funny how it was only her that seems to be their only success story, though they have another woman as a client who's carrying 6. She keeps changing her story, and that makes me suspicious. These kids are all by sperm donors, her ex-husband and current boyfriend in Iraq are not involved.
Honestly, with so many couples seeking to adopt because IVF didn't work for them, she should surrender some if not all for adoption. Or just keep the special needs kids. From her statements, she's a dreamer who needs a strong jolt of reality. The California budget is still being worked on, and sooner or later she's going to have to face the music. Granted, her family should've knocked some sense into her when she was young, but then there's some kids who won't listen no matter what. She seems to be one of those. I don't think her parents should be blamed or threatened.
And she thinks she can be a couselor? What is she going to counsel people in, how to make a mint of having a bazillion kids? Listen, back in the 70s when the Kienast Quints were born, people got sick of them after a few years. I think their father killed himself some years back, I'm going to have to check. But I can't remember if they were natural or an early form of IVF. But except when companies gave free diapers and formula, it was a big deal, and not too many people complained about a couple having so many children at once. Of course, back then, people married first, then had kids.
I read somewhere that these fertility clinics should reserve IVF procedures for people who are married and financially stable, and with full knowledge and consent of the risks and hazards. Anybody who's unmarried, with no income or any kind of support system, or who has a delusional idea of having multiples should be refused for IVF. I'm sorry if that tramples on people's toes, but it's a fact that if there's a household with two parents, the work of raising kids is shared, resulting in less stress. And if you have them a decent amount of time apart, the older kids can help with the younger ones; it hapened in my family, and I'm the 3rd of five. My older brother is 5 years older than me, my older sister was four years older than me, and my two younger sisters are 2 years and 7 years younger than me. Most of the time mom only had to keep an eye on and care for my youngest sister, as my older brother and sister were watching me and my two younger sisters. It worked fine. When I got older I had to help watch my two younger sisters.
However, if a parent can make it work on their own by themselves, without public assistance, more power to them. You look at the lives of some of the greatest contributors of the art world, and quite a few came from single parent families. Whether a child from a disadvantaged background becomes a sinner or a saint, is based in part n the kind of love and support they got from their family as well as the choices they made. Unless this woman's kids are put up for adoption or fostered, they are going to be a mess when they grow up.
Honestly, with so many couples seeking to adopt because IVF didn't work for them, she should surrender some if not all for adoption. Or just keep the special needs kids. From her statements, she's a dreamer who needs a strong jolt of reality. The California budget is still being worked on, and sooner or later she's going to have to face the music. Granted, her family should've knocked some sense into her when she was young, but then there's some kids who won't listen no matter what. She seems to be one of those. I don't think her parents should be blamed or threatened.
And she thinks she can be a couselor? What is she going to counsel people in, how to make a mint of having a bazillion kids? Listen, back in the 70s when the Kienast Quints were born, people got sick of them after a few years. I think their father killed himself some years back, I'm going to have to check. But I can't remember if they were natural or an early form of IVF. But except when companies gave free diapers and formula, it was a big deal, and not too many people complained about a couple having so many children at once. Of course, back then, people married first, then had kids.
I read somewhere that these fertility clinics should reserve IVF procedures for people who are married and financially stable, and with full knowledge and consent of the risks and hazards. Anybody who's unmarried, with no income or any kind of support system, or who has a delusional idea of having multiples should be refused for IVF. I'm sorry if that tramples on people's toes, but it's a fact that if there's a household with two parents, the work of raising kids is shared, resulting in less stress. And if you have them a decent amount of time apart, the older kids can help with the younger ones; it hapened in my family, and I'm the 3rd of five. My older brother is 5 years older than me, my older sister was four years older than me, and my two younger sisters are 2 years and 7 years younger than me. Most of the time mom only had to keep an eye on and care for my youngest sister, as my older brother and sister were watching me and my two younger sisters. It worked fine. When I got older I had to help watch my two younger sisters.
However, if a parent can make it work on their own by themselves, without public assistance, more power to them. You look at the lives of some of the greatest contributors of the art world, and quite a few came from single parent families. Whether a child from a disadvantaged background becomes a sinner or a saint, is based in part n the kind of love and support they got from their family as well as the choices they made. Unless this woman's kids are put up for adoption or fostered, they are going to be a mess when they grow up.
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Re: Calif. Woman Now Mom to 14 Children
I heard today that apparently the same doctor who implanted this gal implanted 7 embryos in ANOTHER Medi-Cal Mom, who is now on hospital bedrest expecting quadruplets 
If you can afford in-vitro treatments, should you have to pay back public assistance? If you get millions for "your story" I would think that would disqualify you for SSI.
Maybe the MD should be made to support them. :twisted:
Another thing- the "friend" who donated all the sperm- Should he be contributing to child support? He made those babies, too!

If you can afford in-vitro treatments, should you have to pay back public assistance? If you get millions for "your story" I would think that would disqualify you for SSI.
Maybe the MD should be made to support them. :twisted:
Another thing- the "friend" who donated all the sperm- Should he be contributing to child support? He made those babies, too!
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Nope, sperm donors are not at all responsible in any manner for the offspring created from them. If they were, no one would ever donate.DisneyMom wrote:Another thing- the "friend" who donated all the sperm- Should he be contributing to child support? He made those babies, too!
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Re: Calif. Woman Now Mom to 14 Children
I think part of the problem is the failure of people to read the memo that states: "A vagina is not a clown car."
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I'm coming up with really bad visual images.ktulu wrote:I think part of the problem is the failure of people to read the memo that states: "A vagina is not a clown car."


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She's now saying she bought the sperm at Costco.kurtisnelson wrote:Nope, sperm donors are not at all responsible in any manner for the offspring created from them. If they were, no one would ever donate.

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Well, the "sperm donor" is a friend who intentionally is assisting HER to get pregnant.....a little different from someone who donates for the benefit of an unknown party, who will never know the children, or someone who donates to a couple who will both be the parents- I imagine that there is a contract written up in that case that absolves the donor of any parental rights or responsibilities. So maybe it depends on the existence or lack of a contract.
Hobie, if you could buy it at Costco, it would only be in the extra large jumbo pack.......maybe that is why she is so "productive" ;)
Hobie, if you could buy it at Costco, it would only be in the extra large jumbo pack.......maybe that is why she is so "productive" ;)
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Re: Calif. Woman Now Mom to 14 Children
They should also give her a hysterectomy.... :p:hobie16 wrote:Maybe she'll get on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition and Ford will give her a bus.
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Costco sells quality products. :D:DisneyMom wrote:Hobie, if you could buy it at Costco, it would only be in the extra large jumbo pack.......maybe that is why she is so "productive" ;)

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And a lip deflation.Teddykeiko86 wrote:They should also give her a hysterectomy.... :p:

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