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Shorty82 · Post by **Shorty82** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:45 pm

BRWombat wrote:Um... Don't hurt me... but you all do realize that this is fiction we're talking about, right?

Fic...tion? What is that word? I don't know it. :p:

Mayonnaise · Post by **Mayonnaise** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:16 pm

BRWombat wrote:Um... Don't hurt me... but you all do realize that this is fiction we're talking about, right?

Yes. And?

Don't mind me... I'm an avid Potterverse RPGer. To an RPGer it matters... much like the mechanics of DnD magic matters if you play DnD.

8^P

DisneyMom · Post by **DisneyMom** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:44 pm

BRWombat wrote:Um... Don't hurt me... but you all do realize that this is fiction we're talking about, right?

Everyone :D: at the Muggle........

accioetoile · Post by **accioetoile** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:25 pm

DisneyMom wrote:Everyone :D: at the Muggle........

everyone point and laugh at the muggle...

haha, as some of you might be able to tell, I'm an HP fan. The biggest day of my life was when I met JK Rowling.

GRUMPY PIRATE · Post by **GRUMPY PIRATE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:30 am

Big Wallaby wrote:I can hear it now, "Weasley to Enterprise..."

Hmmm, If they are all powerful Witches and Wizards, can't they create the Enterprise?

Hmmmmm?

EeyoresButterfly · Post by **EeyoresButterfly** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:19 am

Mayonnaise wrote:I think the ELF would have to be the one taking someone side-along, which may not be a skill they have. Recall we've only seen side along a few times. If it was easy then the Weasley's could have used that to avoid flooing to Diagon and all that... I think it's an added skill beyond apparition yourself, that probably has to be practiced very thoroughly. At least... that's how we regard it at erters.org *Shameless Plug.*

If the house elf doesn't actually know side along, I think there's a really good chance of getting splinched.

Ow.

8^S

Harry had not passed his apparition test, or really apparated at all when he tood Dumbledore on side along apparition following the incident in the cave. Come to think of it, in DH didn't Dobby apparate out of Malfoy Manor and take Harry with him, making it a side along apparition? (I'm re-reading the series now for the upmteenth time. I'm on OOTP, I'll have to pay attention to that when I get to DH).

DisneyMom wrote:Didn't they use port keys for transporting more than one person at a time?

That was one of many options. There are several cases of side along or multiple apparitions: Harry, Ron, and Hermione managed to apparate together to Grimmauld place following the incident at the Ministry. They even managed to bring a Death Eater with them- so side along apparition does not have to be intentional. Of course, Harry apparates with Dumbledore to visit Slughorn, and to go to he cave.

Other options include the Floo network (like in COS when they go to Diagon Alley,) Brooms (going to Grimmauld place in OOTP), train and other enchanted methods of travel such as flying carriages and magical boats (GOF), Thestral (OOTP), magic carpets (as long as you don't live in Britain, GOF). I know there was another I was going to say and now I've lost it, hmm, I'll have to come back to it later.

joanna71985 · Post by **joanna71985** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:02 am

EeyoresButterfly wrote:
Okay- question: We have established that side-along apparition is possible, right? So, what would happen if a human attempted to side-along apparate with a House Elf? Would the house elf's magic be strong enough to apparate them both?

I believe they could. Dobby got them all out of Malfoy Manor in Book 7.

Mayonnaise · Post by **Mayonnaise** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:03 am

EeyoresButterfly wrote:Harry had not passed his apparition test, or really apparated at all when he tood Dumbledore on side along apparition following the incident in the cave. Come to think of it, in DH didn't Dobby apparate out of Malfoy Manor and take Harry with him, making it a side along apparition? (I'm re-reading the series now for the upmteenth time. I'm on OOTP, I'll have to pay attention to that when I get to DH).

I checked... Dobby apparated Luna and Dean actually... so yeah, I suppose with a house elf, one could apparate in Hogwarts... I sometimes forget just how powerful house elves are.

I still maintain that side-along is likely an additional skill, tho. Harry's doing it with Dumbedore was an exceptional case. He's done magic beyond his years on previous occasions as well, especially when it was absolutely life or death critical.

8^)

EeyoresButterfly · Post by **EeyoresButterfly** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:27 am

The whole incident with them accidentally bringing a Death Eater to Grimmauld Place makes me think that it is not a separate skill. I would think if it was Hermione would have been ableto prevent the Death Eater from coming with them rather than having to wait until they reached their destination, shake him off, and then apparate somewhere else.

Mayonnaise · Post by **Mayonnaise** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:54 pm

The Death Eater also apparated then, but made contact with Hermione in order to follow her to her destination. Remus Lupin explained in chapter 11 of DH that it's impossible for anyone to know where you apparated, and follow, unless they are in physical contact with you at the moment of apparition. I've taken that to be more a piggy backed apparition than a side along, since the Death Eater was also capable of apparition.

It's like when Harry and Dobby apparated together to Bill's. They both apparated, but Harry wasn't sure when he disparate if he knew where he was going. Dobby had been there once before tho, so he was able to help, though mortally wounded, and they did in fact land near Shell Cottage.

8^)

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