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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:01 pm

StephM wrote:Welcome back Wombat!!! :D:

As far as posting the kid's pictures, some people will post their children's pictures on one thread, then in other threads describe their lives, their kid's names, their mom's maiden name, etc.

One thing I did with my older kids was to tell them that if a cop ever tries to "take them to headquarters" or whatever, they are ONLY to get in a marked car with lights, paint, etc. I told them if the cop says he is undercover, ask him to call for a marked car. The sex crimes guys my sister knows from the ER told her that was a great idea and most cops would not be ticked off about it. :D:
Very good advice. And your are right, most all police/law enforcement are aware that various safety programs will tell people that if it is not apparent, to do that. I don't think it would bother anyone in that position, the only difference being an immediate safety situation. (gunfire, house on fire, and so forth)


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Post by hobie16 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:19 pm

vixen101485 wrote:Some good points Steph.

On that same note.....look what I got in an E-mail. Are ppl really that ill informed to fall for this. Especially since they obviously know how to use the internet.
I get these all the time. Right click on the message. That should bring up all the IP info on the origination of the message. Forward the scam to your ISP and the originating ISP and paste the IP info into it. Use abuse@(ISP) for the address. The ISPs will shut down the account.

take a look at 419eater.com for LOTS of examples of scams.


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Post by vixen101485 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:28 pm

hobie16 wrote:I get these all the time. Right click on the message. That should bring up all the IP info on the origination of the message. Forward the scam to your ISP and the originating ISP and paste the IP info into it. Use abuse@(ISP) for the address. The ISPs will shut down the account.

take a look at 419eater.com for LOTS of examples of scams.
Can you explain that all again in English. LOL Who do I send it to, since I have cable internet? Do they all have the same abuse@addy.?



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Post by ktulu » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:33 pm

hobie16 wrote:I get these all the time. Right click on the message. That should bring up all the IP info on the origination of the message. Forward the scam to your ISP and the originating ISP and paste the IP info into it. Use abuse@(ISP) for the address. The ISPs will shut down the account.

take a look at 419eater.com for LOTS of examples of scams.
Speaking from the NSP abuse desk standpoint, don't forward us complaints unless it originates from us or advertises a website on us, we can't nuke user of other ISPs and we're not an abuse routing service, even for our customers. I recommend spamcop for that, http://www.spamcop.net.

They will report everything (including phishing) to the appropriate ISP.

Yes, just send it to abuse@ISP, don't send it to every address you get from ARIN (there is this idiot who makes software that does this, it sucks). If anyone has any questions about this stuff, feel free to PM me :)


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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:35 pm

vixen101485 wrote:Can you explain that all again in English. LOL Who do I send it to, since I have cable internet? Do they all have the same abuse@addy.?
Go to your internet providers home page, and a lot of times they will have step by step info on what to do if you are not sure. Like others have said they can at least block from the address, if nothing else.


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Post by ktulu » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:36 pm

vixen101485 wrote:Can you explain that all again in English. LOL Who do I send it to, since I have cable internet? Do they all have the same abuse@addy.?
Yes, the abuse alias is a RFC requirement, RFC's are the documents that dictate policy on the Internet, it's not a "YOU MUST FOLLOW THIS" type thing, but if you don't follow RFC, other networks tend to look down on you and don't want to do things like accept your packets.

What email program do you use?


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Post by hobie16 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:44 pm

vixen101485 wrote:Can you explain that all again in English. LOL Who do I send it to, since I have cable internet? Do they all have the same abuse@addy.?

Yes and yes. It doesn't matter what media (cable, telco, wireless) is used to deliver connectivity, they're all ISPs. Some ISPs will block sites that spam their network. Yahoo is very good as they let their users class messages as spam. This will automatically put spam classed mail into a spam folder. You can either look them over or trash everything.


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Post by Princess Susi » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:53 pm

BRWombat wrote:Hey all -- I'm back from the World and the WD Suite. Upon returning home, Step (1) Bring in luggage (but not unpack); (2) Check email; (3) Get on SGT.com!!!! (1,720 messages while I was gone. :eek: What is wrong with you people??? :D :)

Highlights of the trip were meeting Zazu :zazu: , hanging out with Wallaby :wallaby: , and riding his safari truck!!! :yourock: Give me time to settle in (and for the room to stop rocking -- curse you, rough seas!), and I'll start posting details, including links to my full trip report and plenty of SGT's. :16ton:

(Fear not, no real names or photographs will be posted online.) (Although I thought briefly about posting the pics, but with, say, Brad Pitt's head pasted on their bodies.)

But for now, I'm tired. Nothing like getting back to your car after a long vacation only to find you have to change a flat before going home.

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Yay, the Wombat is back with stories! Fun! :twisted:
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Re: Somewhere out there...

Post by StephM » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:22 pm

vixen101485 wrote: On that same note.....look what I got in an E-mail. Are ppl really that ill informed to fall for this. Especially since they obviously know how to use the internet.
My first thought would be, doesn't the IRS send a letter? :D: Actually, I think if you are due an additional refund, they just send it to you. They don't even bother telling you ahead of time.

I get all sorts of stuff. My AOL account will be cancelled because my billing information is not correct. Well I get it free with Time Warner, AOL does not have billing information for me.

My Wachovia account has some fraudulent activity. Really? Must be fraudulent, since I don't have one. :rolleyes:

Since I get these so often, I assume they must be working for someone or they would not bother. It does make me wonder who thinks that their bank, thinking someone is fraudulently using their account, would send EMAIL??

I do use BofA and I get emails about them all the time. Now if the scammers were sending them to the email I USE for online banking and not my "junk" email address, maybe they would get somewhere. :D:


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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:54 pm

StephM wrote:My first thought would be, doesn't the IRS send a letter? :D: Actually, I think if you are due an additional refund, they just send it to you. They don't even bother telling you ahead of time.

I get all sorts of stuff. My AOL account will be cancelled because my billing information is not correct. Well I get it free with Time Warner, AOL does not have billing information for me.

My Wachovia account has some fraudulent activity. Really? Must be fraudulent, since I don't have one. :rolleyes:

Since I get these so often, I assume they must be working for someone or they would not bother. It does make me wonder who thinks that their bank, thinking someone is fraudulently using their account, would send EMAIL??

I do use BofA and I get emails about them all the time. Now if the scammers were sending them to the email I USE for online banking and not my "junk" email address, maybe they would get somewhere. :D:
The IRS has repeatedly put on their website that they ONLY deal with taxpayers by mail on anything like that. I guess people are just not up on scams. Someone MUST be falling for it, for them to keep doing it.


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