First post, Smashed toes, Stupid Woman!

[gurgi]

i think id have fun with it. grab a glove (or stand in) and slap her in the face. scream out "we challenge you to a duel!" get rental ECV's for everyone with swollen toes, grab some sort of flagpole or equivalent, and take turns jousting the unarmed moron.

then of course. tie her up on the train tracks like an old movie.

ok fine. thats a little silly. i vote for cow tipping.

[Eeyore Tattoo]

i think id have fun with it. grab a glove (or stand in) and slap her in the face. scream out "we challenge you to a duel!" get rental ECV's for everyone with swollen toes, grab some sort of flagpole or equivalent, and take turns jousting the unarmed moron.

then of course. tie her up on the train tracks like an old movie.

ok fine. thats a little silly. i vote for cow tipping.

I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deb

[felinefan]

Everybody should have grabbed their cameras and blinded her with the flash, while taking video of the carnage, and turning it over to the cops. If those rentals have numbers on them, someone should've gotten the number of the ECV, gone to the Stroller Shop and asked for the info of who rented that ECV, and tracked her down that way, assuming enough info is on the contract. Verbal assault also comes to mind--usually I don't like name-calling, especially to a person of size, but I think she would have deserved it in this case ("You fat biotch, watch where you're going! I'll sue you!" "Hey somebody, tip the cow on the ECV!" etc., etc.) . If the label fits, I say slap it on. I would've grabbed her by the hair and screamed in her face. And I would've been screaming for security while I was at it. But as they say, hindsight is always 20/20.

[vixen101485]

I say line up small rocks so that she has to run over them all causing a very bumpy ride which in turn just totally throws her off balance on the thing thereby causing her to tip so no actual cow tipping is necessary. This way we are exonerated of any and all physical contact saving us lots of Wombat lawyer fees for assult and battery (is that the right terms?) Once she is down on the ground tho she is fair game for all the strollers to just run over her numerous times. Then we can turn loose all the little brats (and adults) who dont understand the concept of a public bathroom and consider the whole world their very own potty. After that I am sure the folks at the Triple D Ranch (is it still called that?) wouldnt mind contributing a few "supplies" Then we send over the Brazilian tours so they can chant over and over directly in her ear. Then have a whole bunch of stupid guests ask her lots and lots of dumb questions ...is the sky blue? what time is the 3 oclock parade? are you really a woman or just an escaped freak from the circus?..etc. Then we can all cut in front of her as she slowly (she is in a daze at this point) tries to crawl away.

OK I feel better now...I was ticked off still and she seemed like a good scapegoat.

[Big Wallaby]

I've been thinking about this...

Wombat, need a professional opinion. Yes, I know it comes from Texas where more common sense is used in law than elsewhere (you know, where if someone is breaking into your home and endangering you, it's okay to , ya know, shoot them), but I'm curious: If, as she's going over your toes, you manage to tip her, wouldn't you be all but immune from her lawsuit because you were acting out of surprise and protecting yourself (she's already smashed one foot, you're saving the other) if you can push her well enough to knock her out of the seat? I remember precedent in some Federal case where there was a difference made between freedom of speech and "fighting words" whereby if someone said the wrong words and got beat up for it, they had it coming... how much more if you can prove they're causing you injury? If my reasoning is sound, then I think there's a lot you can get away with before security gets there. I say a good tackling is in order, such that you knock her over AND land on her. And if that someone that happens to land on her is 250+ lbs like me, that's her own darn fault.

If self defense is not enough, then how about the fact you're defending others, because once she's knocked over, she can't hurt anyone else?

Again, if my reasoning is sound (and I don't expect Wombat to be an expert on Florida law, where sometimes common sense is the rule of the day and sometimes it's quite obviously scorned), then you are fairly immune in anything you have to do to stop her. And, of course, if she fights back...

[leftcoaster]

I've been thinking about this...

Wombat, need a professional opinion. Yes, I know it comes from Texas where more common sense is used in law than elsewhere (you know, where if someone is breaking into your home and endangering you, it's okay to , ya know, shoot them), but I'm curious: If, as she's going over your toes, you manage to tip her, wouldn't you be all but immune from her lawsuit because you were acting out of surprise and protecting yourself (she's already smashed one foot, you're saving the other)

Florida has a "protect your ground" law - which means you can shoot to kill someone who you perceive to be a danger to you or to someone else. Since she is running over your feet, and you perceive her to be planning to run over someone else's feet, it's reasonable that you could shoot her to end your misery as well as everyone else's. Since children go to WDW, you have to presume that children are in the park. Therefore you have to presume that there are children close by, and you have to presume that this wacko will not stop to avoid children. These children could potentially be seriously injured, maimed, or even KILLED if this wacko runs over them.

So I say, shoot to kill!

http://www.alternet.org/story/59584/

[Princess Susi]

Yeah! Shoot to kill! Then shoot the damn tires out on the ECV as well! I like this law!
susi

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I like the idea of finding the "kill" or neutral switch! Can you guess what would happen if she was suddenly stopped in the crowd that she had ran over!!

[Cheshire Figment]

Florida has a "protect your ground" law - which means you can shoot to kill someone who you perceive to be a danger to you or to someone else.
So I say, shoot to kill!

The problem with this is you will probably get a lifetime ban from Disney properties since you will have brought a gun into one of the parks.

Yeah! Shoot to kill! Then shoot the damn tires out on the ECV as well! I like this law!
susi

Most ECVs nowadays have tires with foam interiors so you cannot get flat tires. I know when I have had tires replaced on mine they have been replaced with the new ones, so I can't get flat tires any more.

And see my above comment.

[BRWombat]

In general, even self-defense laws require a proportionate response -- in other words, you're not likely to get away with use of deadly force in response to flattened toes. In any case, there's very little that can make you immune from a lawsuit. You might have a defense, but as a practical matter you'd still have to go through defending yourself if sued. Whether your use of force constitutes self-defense will be a fact question, meaning you couldn't get the lawsuit thrown out on that basis. So... you can defend yourself if necessary (within the bounds of the laws in your area), but don't think it won't keep you from a legal hassle.

Forgive me for being lawyerly, but since I'm dispensing legal advice in a public forum, I need to protect myself with a disclaimer: The above is offered free of charge and is worth about that much. I am only licensed to practice in Texas and certain Federal trial and appellate courts and agencies, am not certified in any specialty area of law beyond patent law and may or may not know what I'm talking about here. And even if I did, that doesn't mean it applies to you in your particular situation or location. Follow this advice at your own risk!