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Shyet, sorry guys, didn't read through to see Mr D is on vacation. I will stop. :D:
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I think we're all done. Reasoning with D was a no win situation as he kept changing the rules. Pure magical thinking.Csaks wrote:I will stop. :D:

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Kind of reminds me of a former member whose id was similar to that of a small Japanese car...hobie16 wrote:I think we're all done. Reasoning with D was a no win situation as he kept changing the rules. Pure magical thinking.
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You pirate your music and movies, don't you?Mr. D. wrote:They found a possible loop hole or way around the system. IMO there is nothing wrong with that, and I doubt Disney is hurting for the extra bucks. They are not "stealing" anything. They ARE paying for admission. I am sure I will get some pleasant replies on this, but I think when companies charge so much for a person to use their service then the few people that find a way to help their wallet I say bravo. Now for all those that say "And those people are the reason they charge so much." I say bull. Disney is not charging $80 per person, per park, per day, to cover the 10 people a day (if even that) that find a way to save $20 on admission. They are charging $80 for admission out of pure greed.
So I have to say as far as morals go, it is morally wrong for companies to rip off their customers (or "guest" as Disney likes to call them) buy jacking their prices so high you have to take out a 2nd mortgage to be able to afford to visit.
Besides, the few dollars they are saving on admission they WILL spend inside the park. So Disney is still getting their money.
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And IMHO, if you want to complain about prices, find a Universal forum. I can't believe how much they charge (well over $100) for one day at a park that, IMO, isn't nearly as good as any at WDW.
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Only the net logs know for sure.delsdad wrote:Kind of reminds me of a former member whose id was similar to that of a small Japanese car...
You don't think....


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delsdad wrote:Kind of reminds me of a former member whose id was similar to that of a small Japanese car...
You don't think....
Could be, but then again, it might just be that people with certain personality traits tend to use similar styles of arguments. I must admit, though, I did get the same "could it be him?" vibe. Now, if "Mr. D" had made some disparaging remarks about DL.... :)hobie16 wrote:Only the net logs know for sure.![]()
Back to the matter at hand, I could see perhaps a person not understanding the terms of the deal, and believing that a resident could buy a certain amount of tickets for non-residence at the reduced price if they are the resident's guests. However, since Disney does have it written into the term of the offer that the tickets are to only be used by residents, then the person who purchased them shouldn't complain when told he can't just give them to non-residents. Sound about right to you folks?
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I know I'm late to the party, and that one of the most lively guests has already departed, but as I read this thread there were several things that came to mind. Most were said by many of you here: if it involves lying -- it's wrong; it's not a loop-hole if you don't follow the rules; pricing is set by what the market will bear; don't buy a service if you don't like the price; etc.
There was one point I would make, though, when it comes to talking about Disney's "greed." Although it's been a few years since I've read one of their anuual reports, and although I do not claim to be an acocuntant or financial analyst, it seems to me that there is a fairly straight forward way to quickly determine if Disney was really screwing people. Salaries and COGS and maintenance were all mentioned, but look at the stock and stock earnings. If Disney were making the huge profits mentioned earlier, the earnings per share would shoot up and the stock would become highly desirable, followed by an increase in stock price. DIS has fluxuated between low 20's and low 40's, but neither the earnings nor the stock price have been sky rocketing. The prevailing analysis over the past few years has been "hold" or "weak buy". Also, in the past few years, Disney's strength overall has not been in the theme parks -- they've been soft.
As a publicly traded company, Disney has to manage the company based on stock-holder desires. The Return On Investment has to stay competitive in order to attract large investors such as retirement plans, etc. If they don't turn enough profit, investors will sell and Disney will have less operational funds available.
Don't get me wrong... Disney does everything it can to turn a buck and it does a good job. It is often heartless in its protection of assets. It is a very profitable, very large company. But to say that it is making so much money that it could cut it's prices in order to help its customers is not born out in the financials, let alone common sense.
There was one point I would make, though, when it comes to talking about Disney's "greed." Although it's been a few years since I've read one of their anuual reports, and although I do not claim to be an acocuntant or financial analyst, it seems to me that there is a fairly straight forward way to quickly determine if Disney was really screwing people. Salaries and COGS and maintenance were all mentioned, but look at the stock and stock earnings. If Disney were making the huge profits mentioned earlier, the earnings per share would shoot up and the stock would become highly desirable, followed by an increase in stock price. DIS has fluxuated between low 20's and low 40's, but neither the earnings nor the stock price have been sky rocketing. The prevailing analysis over the past few years has been "hold" or "weak buy". Also, in the past few years, Disney's strength overall has not been in the theme parks -- they've been soft.
As a publicly traded company, Disney has to manage the company based on stock-holder desires. The Return On Investment has to stay competitive in order to attract large investors such as retirement plans, etc. If they don't turn enough profit, investors will sell and Disney will have less operational funds available.
Don't get me wrong... Disney does everything it can to turn a buck and it does a good job. It is often heartless in its protection of assets. It is a very profitable, very large company. But to say that it is making so much money that it could cut it's prices in order to help its customers is not born out in the financials, let alone common sense.
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Where is the "Like" button around here?WEDFan wrote:I know I'm late to the party, and that one of the most lively guests has already departed, but as I read this thread there were several things that came to mind. Most were said by many of you here: if it involves lying -- it's wrong; it's not a loop-hole if you don't follow the rules; pricing is set by what the market will bear; don't buy a service if you don't like the price; etc.
There was one point I would make, though, when it comes to talking about Disney's "greed." Although it's been a few years since I've read one of their anuual reports, and although I do not claim to be an acocuntant or financial analyst, it seems to me that there is a fairly straight forward way to quickly determine if Disney was really screwing people. Salaries and COGS and maintenance were all mentioned, but look at the stock and stock earnings. If Disney were making the huge profits mentioned earlier, the earnings per share would shoot up and the stock would become highly desirable, followed by an increase in stock price. DIS has fluxuated between low 20's and low 40's, but neither the earnings nor the stock price have been sky rocketing. The prevailing analysis over the past few years has been "hold" or "weak buy". Also, in the past few years, Disney's strength overall has not been in the theme parks -- they've been soft.
As a publicly traded company, Disney has to manage the company based on stock-holder desires. The Return On Investment has to stay competitive in order to attract large investors such as retirement plans, etc. If they don't turn enough profit, investors will sell and Disney will have less operational funds available.
Don't get me wrong... Disney does everything it can to turn a buck and it does a good job. It is often heartless in its protection of assets. It is a very profitable, very large company. But to say that it is making so much money that it could cut it's prices in order to help its customers is not born out in the financials, let alone common sense.
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Good analysis WEDFan. If you want to simplify how a company is doing, look at their cash position. If cash held increases quarter to quarter then the company is being well managed. If cash remains fairly level then the company is doing okay but may be facing some challenges. If cash is dropping then it's time to either sell your stock fast or find a new job.
The exception would be if they take cash and use it for either a stock buy back or acquisition. Stock buy backs are good news as the company truly believes it itself.
Stock wise, Disney is doing okay. They came close to their 52-week high yesterday. There was a bit of a pullback today. Unless the Greeks go crazy or some other perceived world ending calamity pops up, Disney's value should continue to climb.
The exception would be if they take cash and use it for either a stock buy back or acquisition. Stock buy backs are good news as the company truly believes it itself.
Stock wise, Disney is doing okay. They came close to their 52-week high yesterday. There was a bit of a pullback today. Unless the Greeks go crazy or some other perceived world ending calamity pops up, Disney's value should continue to climb.

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