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Post by shilohmm » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:41 pm

LucyintheSky wrote:I've happily gone to WDW with another adult or completely alone for years now, and never thought that there were people out there calling me a weirdo! But the idea of strangers judging me makes my blood boil.
Maybe there aren't, or at least not in terms of the people you hang out with. I mostly get that kind of stuff from my parents and their friends, who tend to be conformist to the max. :rolleyes: My friends are more likely to respond "cool!", or "tell me more about that," or "I'm not into that." They're not going to give me any grief about my vacation choices because conformity is not part of their social identity. :p:

I also think people with a more "out there", forceful personality don't hear that sort of thing. Nor do people with a lot of power, whether that power is sheer size or money or social prestige. I'm sure part of the reason I hear that sort of thing more from my parents and their friends is that they're older and more powerful and thus more willing to try and tell me what to do. :rolleyes: Although I think they've mostly learned to back off -- all I actually hear anymore about my Disney obsession is my mother's occasional, kind of plaintive,"It really puzzles me why you're so into it."
Goofyernmost wrote:I never had any indication or even the slightest hint that any one in the park gave a damn about it.
My husband is convinced that no one cares that he's holding up the fast food line by refusing to figure out what he and the kids want before getting to the cashier, either. He also has no idea that anyone cares about him stopping dead in a crowded area with people moving rapidly in both directions. He once saw me and turned around halfway up a streaming crowd on a staircase to fight his way back down to join me, and was amazed when I told him I was not the only one he'd annoyed by that. :rolleyes:

Not to say that's where you're at, but people definitely vary in their ability to pick up social cues. Hubby does not even notice when people yell at him, but my brother, who totally gets what an indignant "Hey, buddy!" means, doesn't pick up much more subtle cues like indignant sniffs and what I call "ruffled feathers." It isn't necessarily paranoia that makes some people notice disapproval and others not.



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Post by goofy1978 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:51 pm

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Post by seeing_eye_child » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:53 pm

Csaks wrote:Don't get me wrong, I've talked to a bunch of reasonable people over there. I have gotten good advice and hopefully given some back. But there are the self righteous ones that get you all worked up, as per your example. Ignore them on the forum or you'll get written up and points taken away towards your future expulsion from the forum if you keep it up. Guess how I know! :eek:


Keeping the little ones cool, comfortable and rested. These are the people I was talking about. I don't have my own kids but I have plenty of nieces and nephews and recognize the 'I need a nap' melt down.
We're definitely talking about different boards - this one's actually a FB group. Everyone typically has the wisdom to keep their two cents out of it if they have anything critical to say, and nobody gets pissy, argumentative, or expelled. Important factor in this group: its strongest personalities are all highly sarcastic types who gleefully rip on each other all the time.

Just this ONCE I needed to blow off steam elsewhere. And it helped!


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Post by seeing_eye_child » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:09 pm

WEDFan wrote:Ummm, not necessarily. I don't really give a rat's butt about what other people think, but I have frequently been subjected to questions about why we are going without children or why we are going again. Direct questions are not the product of paranoia. That's not to say that evryone I meet makes those comments, nor is it saying that some people aren't more sensitive to the comments than others. I think the observation by many of us about the comments is that they are annoying -- not that we worry about them or change our behavior. Can't speak for everyone, but that's my experience.
Agreed.

Generally, I'm not assuming people are looking at me to look for a reason to judge. I doubt every Tom, Dick, and Aunt Sally was looking at me cross-eyed for being in at WDB w/out kids last year. (I know somebody was giving me the evil eye because he thought I was cutting in front of the families who were leaving acres of space between them at HS rope drop. We're not in line, dude. I'm filling in available space and making room for the hundreds of people behind us. Get over it.)

But the fact is that we all judge people that catch our eye, whether or not we want to admit it. The "adults w/out kids in WDW are creepy" attitude is out there just like the "you're going to WDW AGAIN?" naysayers. I'm usually good enough at not thinking about this crap that it gives me a big "WTF?" moment when it actually comes out in words.

We tripped up a lot of people last year because of ...not judgments, but assumptions. I'm female, and I traveled with a guy who was not my significant other. In fact, he was the guy who introduced me to my then boyfriend, now fiance. (Yes, my fiance was fine with this trip.) Cast members would assume my friend was my "prince." We started explaining that he's "the Beast" and I left the prince at home. It was quite entertaining to watch the responses!


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Post by DonutGoddess » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:27 pm

News flash to anyone who objects to you honeymooning at Disney, people actually get married there! While we didn't get married at WDW, we did our honeymoon there two years ago and then our anniversary last year. I don't have any kids but I am a kid myself(at 39!) and we love Disney. I love doing adult things at Disney (and there is a lot to do!) as well as theme park stuff. Those people who said you shouldn't do Disney without kids are crazy.


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Post by Goofyernmost » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:19 pm

shilohmm wrote:My husband is convinced that no one cares that he's holding up the fast food line by refusing to figure out what he and the kids want before getting to the cashier, either. He also has no idea that anyone cares about him stopping dead in a crowded area with people moving rapidly in both directions. He once saw me and turned around halfway up a streaming crowd on a staircase to fight his way back down to join me, and was amazed when I told him I was not the only one he'd annoyed by that. :rolleyes:

Not to say that's where you're at, but people definitely vary in their ability to pick up social cues. Hubby does not even notice when people yell at him, but my brother, who totally gets what an indignant "Hey, buddy!" means, doesn't pick up much more subtle cues like indignant sniffs and what I call "ruffled feathers." It isn't necessarily paranoia that makes some people notice disapproval and others not.
I was talking specifically about the situation of going to Disney childless. These other things you mentioned directly affect other people and therefore are noticed negatively. I'm saying that nobody cares if you are there without children. No one has the time or probably even notices. However, mess up the flow of people and you are on my stare down list. :) That is not paranoia, that is reality.
DonutGoddess wrote:News flash to anyone who objects to you honeymooning at Disney, people actually get married there! While we didn't get married at WDW, we did our honeymoon there two years ago and then our anniversary last year. I don't have any kids but I am a kid myself(at 39!) and we love Disney. I love doing adult things at Disney (and there is a lot to do!) as well as theme park stuff. Those people who said you shouldn't do Disney without kids are crazy.
Disney was not a destination for Honeymoons when I got married and even if it had been I couldn't have afforded it. Later on many people I knew went there for that purpose. Just last week I saw at least 5 couples wearing the Bride and Groom ears around the park. That is something I would never have done, but many do. With the Wedding Chapel, that I jokingly refer to as the scariest ride in WDW, it is a wedding destination as well as a honeymoon destination. Anyone that thought that it wasn't a place to be would be odd indeed.


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Post by CBeilby » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:26 pm

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Post by LucyintheSky » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:28 pm

Goofyernmost wrote:That would be because there aren't many people out there that give a rats butt what you do at any given time. I have never even noticed if someone is by themselves, has kids (unless they are making a big fuss) or anything and I certainly do not have the time or energy to form an opinion. I don't think that is just me...I believe it is pretty universal (oops! sorry for mentioning the U word).

Individual paranoia is the main culprit in this scenario. Those that are self conscience about what others think tend to think they see a look, or hear a comment and make it about whatever they are sensitive about. Even if it were true (which it isn't) why would anyone spend their time concerned about what total strangers think, one way or the other.

Family...that is a little tougher to deal with because they are focused on your individual situation...the rest of the world...not so much.
I'm definitely not paranoid about what complete strangers may or may not think... I've just never come across people saying that adults being at WDW without kids was weird or odd, and the notion surprised me. I've spent a lot of time in the parks in the past 10 years, and I've seen SO many couples on honeymoons (wearing the bride and groom ears), or just adults w/out kids, it never occurred to me that some out there would think it's strange. I've never once noticed anyone in the parks looking at me funny or anything like that. Like you said, I don't think most people care what others are doing. I think it's mostly bored people on the internet who want to stir the pot saying rude things, like they did to the OP.

I do get the "how can you go there so much" thing all the time, from family and some friends, and even from strangers who strike up a conversation with me. I just tell them that it's what I like to do, and let it go at that.



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Post by NemoRanger » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:37 pm

I hang out at the parks by myself often. Actually I am always hanging out at the parks with adults or by myself. The times that I actually did hang out with kids in the parks I found that I didn't have nearly as good of a time as I do when I am with my friends.

My all time favorite day to hang out at the park is gay day at the Magic Kingdom. Honestly its not just because I am gay and the park is flooded with gay men. Well that is a huge part but its because the park is flooded with adults who LOVE Disney and are typically fun to hang around with. On that day I find myself having more fun waiting in line then I do on the actual ride. I have also met some great new friends. Its the best.

The only time I really got of that "Your creepy" stare from people is when I waited in Pixie Hollow by myself to meet Tinkerbell. I never met her or seen Pixie Hollow and I was curious so I said screw it and waited in line surrounded by little princesses as parents gave me the stink eye. I just smiled, ignored them and chatted with the woman in front of me about Kiev.

On a side note. I asked Tinkerbell where she last saw Peter and she claimed not to have any clue who Peter Pan was. A cast member said she hadn't met him yet.



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