SG mom got arrested at MK

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Re: SG mom got arrested at MK

Post by Big Wallaby » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:24 pm

BRWombat wrote:After the initial shock and disgust at this woman's (I do not call her a mother) actions, my next thought was -- I hope at least some of the witnesses are locals. It may be hard taking her to trial otherwise.
Nope. She doesn't qualify as a woman. And especially not a lady. Got another term you can use?
rebelrebel wrote:Do you think they might have it on CCTV?
I doubt the company would release the video for that.


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Re: SG mom got arrested at MK

Post by shilohmm » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:42 pm

jmartinez1895 wrote:This is so sad, but my hubby is a police officer and he said it makes him so mad when he calls CPS they don;t do anything.
The law in most states removes child abusers (particularly if family) from the regular courts and puts them into a totally different court systems with totally different rules, where there's no presumption of innocence and the kids can be removed without the parents being criminally charged. What often happens is that the parents who're willing to admit their guilt but also jump through the hoops the court sets get their kids back, while the parents who insist they are innocent never get "their day in court" (because they haven't been criminally charged), and don't get their kids back. There also tends to be a huge turnover among social workers, because the people who really want to help realize they aren't helping and move on, meaning most of the "old timers" are people who like having that power to abuse and don't mind the fact that they really aren't doing a lot of good. :mad:

The system is less abusive if there's someone at the top who really insists on justice, but since the whole structure is kinda corrupt, often as not you end up with abusive people in charge and naive kids right out of college in the front lines. Since many abusers are highly skilled manipulators, and many parents who've been framed or are being manipulated by an abuser in the family are NOT skilled at that sort of thing, the odds are really good that kids with non-abusive parents will be removed, while kids whose parents are clearly abusive will stay in the home. :(

Not that removing the kids is a particularly good idea -- often, when the number of kids in foster care goes up, so does the death rate. Kids in one US foster care system had a death rate four times higher than kids outside the system, and that's not counting the more common rape and other abuse rates foster kids deal with. The really sad thing is that most of the kids in the foster care system were not in danger at home -- most of the kids in the system (up to 95% some places) are there for "neglect," which in practice can mean anything from two parents struggling to survive not providing baby sitting services the state considers adequate to parents limiting the kids TV time to parents dealing with a landlord who isn't providing heat.

Many if not most "neglect" cases could be resolved by giving the parents resources instead of putting them through parenting classes or otherwise adding to their stress without dealing with the actual problems they're struggling against. Back when my mom was a school nurse, I read an article in one of her magazines and pointed out that my parents were abusers according to the state definition of abuse, and so were the parents of every person I'd ever known. My mom agreed that I was technically correct, but she trusted the social workers to only accuse people who were truly neglectful. I'm not so trusting, myself.



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Re: SG mom got arrested at MK

Post by Tinker Bell » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:01 am

I was honestly shocked when I saw this in the news. I remember a couple of years ago we had this woman hitting the kid, hard, on one of the TT rooms because the kid was afraid of the characters. When I said this to one of my managers I got told we couldn't do anything about this. Honestly, I understand a spank on the bud, a good firm grip on a hand, or ears, when they are misbehaving. However I full flat out beating for something so trivial is quite frankly stupid, especially on young children. So I had always thought that even if the beat the kid up we couldn't do anything as it was "parenting" thing, as I got told. Imagine my surprise when I saw this in the news...

That being said I feel as if parents don't try with kids anymore. I mean half of the temper tantrums I see in kids at a young age are somewhat a parents fault for trying to work the kids into exhaustion. I mean let's half fun, even if you are not having fun. :(



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Re: SG mom got arrested at MK

Post by security officer » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:16 am

don worry if fl cops are anything like california they use the old trick :twisted:


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