Another one bites the dust

CptnSkippy · Post by **CptnSkippy** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:06 pm

You do realize the tree was moved 150 feet towards the attraction. THey're squishing pooh into less space.

Honda Enoch wrote: Sorry but that's incorrect. Walt had started plans for a Disney park in FL ever since he saw the mistakes made with DL. Check the videos of him talking about the Florida Project. He shows the area for the park, then goes into "And by far the biggest plans for the Florida Project is.... E.P.C.O.T."

He built the Magic Kingdom, because that's what the public wanted. EPCOT was what he wanted. The state of Florida gave up a lot of control to Disney because he was able to sell EPCOT without the state understanding what an EPCOT was. They understood Disneyland, and were willing to do what it took to get one over here.

"Soon after Disneyland opened, the public clamored for an East Coast Disneyland. At first, Walt said he would never build another Disneyland."
How to Be Like Walt: Capturing the Disney Magic Every Day of Your Life - Page 283

CptnSkippy · Post by **CptnSkippy** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:18 pm

Honda Enoch wrote: Sorry but that's incorrect. Walt had started plans for a Disney park in FL ever since he saw the mistakes made with DL. Check the videos of him talking about the Florida Project. He shows the area for the park, then goes into "And by far the biggest plans for the Florida Project is.... E.P.C.O.T."

He built the Magic Kingdom, because that's what the public wanted. EPCOT was what he wanted. The state of Florida gave up a lot of control to Disney because he was able to sell EPCOT without the state understanding what an EPCOT was. They understood Disneyland, and were willing to do what it took to get one over here.

"Soon after Disneyland opened, the public clamored for an East Coast Disneyland. At first, Walt said he would never build another Disneyland."
How to Be Like Walt: Capturing the Disney Magic Every Day of Your Life - Page 283

Disneyguy85 · Post by **Disneyguy85** » Sun May 30, 2010 6:42 pm

hobie16 wrote:It's really more the case of a visionary (Walt) coming up with an idea but not having the capital to make it real. There are two sources, loan(s) or equity (stock). Loans can be paid off but equity seemingly lasts forever.

With equity you also need someone to represent the stockholders. That would be the board. The board will usually do a good job of representing the stockholders because they get paid in stock thus becoming representatives of their own interests.

In the case of building WDW, Walt had a vision (EPCOT) but the board wanted a proven concept (MK). Both eventually got what they wanted. More or less.

Yes, that's true, I was half-kidding when I made that TV judge statement. But it still has the potential to be something worth seeing get worked out on TV.

;)

Disneyguy85 · Post by **Disneyguy85** » Mon May 31, 2010 3:00 am

By the way, I've got to say that its a shame that EPCOT didn't exactly turn out the way that Walt had envisioned, although it probably would have been difficult to create the version of the perfect city that he had in mind.

ktulu · Post by **ktulu** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:57 am

Disneyguy85 wrote:By the way, I've got to say that its a shame that EPCOT didn't exactly turn out the way that Walt had envisioned, although it probably would have been difficult to create the version of the perfect city that he had in mind.

If he was alive, it would have gotten built. Walt Disney World of today is not Walt's. I don't think Walt would have put the same attractions in the MK. He would have said, if they want to ride X, let them go to Disneyland!

And what he did build would have been right. I am sure of that.

Disneyguy85 · Post by **Disneyguy85** » Mon May 31, 2010 11:18 am

ktulu wrote:If he was alive, it would have gotten built.

True, Walt did have a knack for getting the impossible done. The road to it was not always easy, but he did get things done.

Speaking of which, I love WDI! They do incredible things! And I'm looking forward to their upcoming projects for DCA.

ktulu · Post by **ktulu** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:09 pm

DCA is going to be awesome when the changes are finally done!

Disneyguy85 · Post by **Disneyguy85** » Mon May 31, 2010 8:05 pm

ktulu wrote:DCA is going to be awesome when the changes are finally done!

Indeed!

The Silly Symphony Swings finally opened recently. It has a much better theme and feel than the Orange Stinger.

And World of Color is almost here!

Main Streeter · Post by **Main Streeter** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:36 am

WoC CM preview tickets will be given out today. They are expected to go fast! Team Centers will be packed all day I was told @ check in. CM previews are June 6th 2200 & 2315. June 7th 2100, 2215, & 2315. Costumes are not to be worn by CMs attending due to GC rehersals.

ktulu · Post by **ktulu** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:04 am

Disneyguy85 wrote:Indeed!

The Silly Symphony Swings finally opened recently. It has a much better theme and feel than the Orange Stinger.

I've been following the changes. I never rode the Orange Stinger, never cared much for it. This looks awesome though. I can't wait to get back to DLR and see all of the changes. I also want to check out the new and improved Rivers of America.

Main Streeter wrote:WoC CM preview tickets will be given out today. They are expected to go fast! Team Centers will be packed all day I was told @ check in. CM previews are June 6th 2200 & 2315. June 7th 2100, 2215, & 2315. Costumes are not to be worn by CMs attending due to GC rehersals.

I'll be in line to get mine :D:

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