Another one bites the dust

[Cheshire Figment]

But technically the name is "Cinderella Castle". It is not "Cinderella's Castle". There is no ownership implied.

Just as the old name for the dining room was "King Stefan Banquet Hall", again named to honor King Stefan and not indicate ownership.

You have to get your backstory correct or you will confuse the Guests!

[darph nader]

You have to get your backstory correct or you will confuse the Guests!

You mean 'more' than some already are?

[CptnSkippy]

You do realize Walt would put things in the park, and then replace them with something else, such as the Viewliner which lasted just over a year.

Wait times for Pooh are always high. It's not my thing, but I've ridden it with my kids and they loved it. Especially the Tigger part.

As for the eviction you suggest... Really? You're complaining about the massive expansion we're getting?
Mickey's birthdayland wasn't intended to be permanent. Don't get me wrong, Mickey and Minnie's houses are must sees for my kids, but Mickey is not being walked from the park by security and turning in his ID badge.

[Main Streeter]

Just H E again.... ;) Post on.

[Honda Enoch]

But technically the name is "Cinderella Castle". It is not "Cinderella's Castle". There is no ownership implied.

Just as the old name for the dining room was "King Stefan Banquet Hall", again named to honor King Stefan and not indicate ownership.

You have to get your backstory correct or you will confuse the Guests!

*roll eyes*

So I guess then it should be "Mickey house"

By putting the name on the house (or castle) ownership IS implied.

You do realize Walt would put things in the park, and then replace them with something else, such as the Viewliner which lasted just over a year.

Wait times for Pooh are always high. It's not my thing, but I've ridden it with my kids and they loved it. Especially the Tigger part.

Wait times for Toad were always high as well.

WYW said it best

As an attraction loved - vocally - by thousands, its departure from the park in 1998 was a clear signal that nothing was certain about the park's attractions or their longevity, and also that thunderous (by Disney standards) public petitioning would not be enough to save favorites from the wrecking ball. It also broadened the perceived criteria for WDW management's justification of such destructive action...it didn't have to be an attraction that had lost its sponsor, like If You Had Wings or Horizons. It didn't have to cost a ton of money to staff and maintain, like 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and it didn't have to be suffering from chronic under-visitation, like the Walt Disney Story or the Kitchen Kabaret.
All it had to be was a relatively easy give on the road to somewhere in particular. In the case of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, that other destination was the Hundred Acre Wood. If the company was to build a Winnie-the-Pooh ride in the Magic Kingdom - something it could extensively promote and expect to generate new excitement among visitors - the most economically logical starting point would be within the existing walls of an older, less tangibly valuable attraction.

As it seems to be the way Disney does things now.

As for the eviction you suggest... Really? You're complaining about the massive expansion we're getting?
Mickey's birthdayland wasn't intended to be permanent. Don't get me wrong, Mickey and Minnie's houses are must sees for my kids, but Mickey is not being walked from the park by security and turning in his ID badge.

Yes I am complaining that once again Disney is tearing down beloved attractions to add more pointless crap.

No Mickey's BIRTHDAYLAND was not intended to be permanent. That's why it was upgraded (a few times) to become Toon Town Fair. Once again They take something away from WDW yet it remains at DL. (Mickey's house).

Just H E again.... ;) Post on.

I am SOOOOOO Sorry that I do not bow down and just accept the crap that Disney shoves down your throats. And just because they sugar coat it, you all smile and think it's sweet. For the past 30 years Disney has done it's best to kill the mouse. And now they have succeeded in doing so. How many times in the past 30 years have we heard "We're closing your favorite ride so that we can replace it with something better." then you see that something better turns out to be a pile of horse crap. We all know the changes we see take place today have been in the planning stage for many, MANY years. They knew a long time ago about this Fantasyland expansion. So why not leave Toad, knowing darn well that in a few years Pooh would get half of Fantasyland anyway.

Open your eyes for a moment and look back at the history of the parks. Look at how when they opened Mickey was everywhere. Now look at it today and tell me how much (or little) you see Mickey.

Look at the Studios. There used to be a WONDERFUL Hidden Mickey in the middle of the park. Now it is covered with a tacky hat that does not fit the theme of the area at all. And for what? PIN TRADING. Come on, that could have been stuck somewhere else.

You used to be able to walk down Mickey Ave. Not anymore. You now are surrounded by PIXAR puke.

This is a discussion board. If you don't like what I have to say, feel free to ignore me.

[Shorty82]

*roll eyes*

So I guess then it should be "Mickey house"

By putting the name on the house (or castle) ownership IS implied.

Naming something after somebody does not imply ownership. How many buildings are named after somebody but not owned by them at all? Lots and lots.

Yes I am complaining that once again Disney is tearing down beloved attractions to add more pointless crap.

No attractions are being torn down, the Barnstormer is staying, just getting rethemed.

No Mickey's BIRTHDAYLAND was not intended to be permanent. That's why it was upgraded (a few times) to become Toon Town Fair. Once again They take something away from WDW yet it remains at DL. (Mickey's house).

Mickey's Toontown Fair is really showing its age, at least partially because nearly everything there was not meant to last 20+ years. IMO it is time they did something better with the space. It is a shame though that Mickey's and Minnie's houses are being torn down. Toontown at DL was purpose built as a permanent land and has always been a LOT better than MK's Toontown Fair.

They knew a long time ago about this Fantasyland expansion. So why not leave Toad, knowing darn well that in a few years Pooh would get half of Fantasyland anyway.

All Pooh has now is his attraction. The playground is closed and will be torn down, replaced by the Little Mermaid attraction. It is a shame they closed Mr. Toad's (where else at Disney do you visit Hell?) but the powers that be at the time decided to close it and we have to live with that. The crowds are made up of different types of people at DLR and WDW and Disney has to do different things at both resorts to keep people coming back. Somebody decided that replacing Mr. Toad with Pooh would bring more people to the park.

Look at the Studios. There used to be a WONDERFUL Hidden Mickey in the middle of the park. Now it is covered with a tacky hat that does not fit the theme of the area at all. And for what? PIN TRADING. Come on, that could have been stuck somewhere else.

I don't know about the hidden Mickey you're talking about but the hat was put in to cover Grauman's Chinese Theatre after something went wrong with the contract Disney had with them.

You used to be able to walk down Mickey Ave. Not anymore. You now are surrounded by PIXAR puke.

The only constant at Disney is change. Change is what keeps bringing guests back to the parks. Disney has to do what they can to keep guests coming back and to get new guests to visit.

[Honda Enoch]

No attractions are being torn down, the Barnstormer is staying, just getting rethemed.

So Toon Town fair is not an attraction??? Maybe no RIDES are being torn down, but ATTRACTIONS are.

Mickey's Toontown Fair is really showing its age, at least partially because nearly everything there was not meant to last 20+ years. IMO it is time they did something better with the space. It is a shame though that Mickey's and Minnie's houses are being torn down. Toontown at DL was purpose built as a permanent land and has always been a LOT better than MK's Toontown Fair.

So lets not fix it. Lets just tear it down.

All Pooh has now is his attraction. The playground is closed and will be torn down, replaced by the Little Mermaid attraction. It is a shame they closed Mr. Toad's (where else at Disney do you visit Hell?) but the powers that be at the time decided to close it and we have to live with that. The crowds are made up of different types of people at DLR and WDW and Disney has to do different things at both resorts to keep people coming back. Somebody decided that replacing Mr. Toad with Pooh would bring more people to the park.

The play ground is being MOVED to another location. Pooh is going to have a rather LARGE plot in the new expansion.

I don't know about the hidden Mickey you're talking about but the hat was put in to cover Grauman's Chinese Theatre after something went wrong with the contract Disney had with them.

Do a Google search for the hidden Mickey. Look at any old MGM map. You will see it.

The only constant at Disney is change. Change is what keeps bringing guests back to the parks. Disney has to do what they can to keep guests coming back and to get new guests to visit.

It may keep bringing new visitors, But the true hard core fans that helped make the park what it was will never love the new parks.

[hobie16]

If you don't like what I have to say, feel free to ignore me.

Step outside, take a deep breath, and watch the flowers while counting to ten. Don't you feel better?

[Disneyguy85]

The only constant at Disney is change. Change is what keeps bringing guests back to the parks. Disney has to do what they can to keep guests coming back and to get new guests to visit.

Yup.

As cliche as it may seem, Walt Disney believed that Disneyland should change as evolve. He did not want things at the park to grow stale. That holds true for every Disney park.

[drcorey]

You do realize Walt would put things in the park, and then replace them with something else, such as the Viewliner which lasted just over a year.

Wait times for Pooh are always high. It's not my thing, but I've ridden it with my kids and they loved it. Especially the Tigger part.

As for the eviction you suggest... Really? You're complaining about the massive expansion we're getting?
Mickey's birthdayland wasn't intended to be permanent. Don't get me wrong, Mickey and Minnie's houses are must sees for my kids, but Mickey is not being walked from the park by security and turning in his ID badge.

"Wait times for Pooh are always high?"
yeah really, I hate when I need to go and thier is a huge line in front.

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