A Monster Among Us

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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by DisneyMom » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:42 am

hate to say this, but someone who worked with Flower may know the Culprit- animal abuse is often connected with an abusive relationship between people. The Abuser uses the animal as a "warning" and/ or is jealous of the attention given to it. Ask your daughter if she is aware of anyone she goes to class with who might be having "boyfriend problems".
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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by hobie16 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:24 am

Thank you all for your thoughts. I'm not normally very emotional but I couldn't sleep last night thinking about Flower. It's very hard to remember all the funny stories my daughter came home with and then to think about the horror she went through.

The school has full-time borders who mostly are very large Tongans. They take care of the animals on the weekends. They, as a group, are pissed. They'll be enhancing security immediately.

I'll update you all when I get news.

As for disposing of the body, we have plenty of Tiger sharks off the coast. A little chum to attract them and all is well.


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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by DragonFox98 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:45 am

Hobie,

So sorry to read about Flower! I will admit I am a hunter, but this just turns my stomach!!! Nothing, be it animal or human, should have to suffer like that. I'm with the others...chum in the water and throw 'em in!

Please know that Flower and your daughter are in my thoughts.



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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by hobie16 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:43 am

My wife forwarded this picture of Flower in better times.

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She's got her nose on my daughter's stomach waiting for her goldfish cracker snack.


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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by Syndrome » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:52 am

That is totally heartbreaking and that human POS sounds like he's on the same level as the Miami Cat Killer. There is only one way to deal with people like them (and those who hurt innocent kids). Kill them, then disperse their blood and organs to people who need them. I hate to say it, but some people are a waste of food and air.



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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by Disneyguy85 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:53 pm

Syndrome wrote:I hate to say it, but some people are a waste of food and air.
Oh, most definitely!



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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by hobie16 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:33 pm

My daughter called earlier. She's off on a field trip today but stopped by the barn to check on Flower. She said Flower seems much better and was happy to see her. A hand full of gold fish crackers and some sliced apples didn't seem to hurt either.


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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by Big Wallaby » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:52 pm

Glad to hear that she is recovering well.

I guess the only way to turn this around into a good thing (besides chum and a very small boat... or better yet let's staple the chum to him and send him without a boat) is how the students will care for Flower and get her back to health.

Whoever it was will get theirs. It's a small island, a limited number of people who would even know to have access to an animal in that school.


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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by felinefan » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:57 pm

Aren't Axis Deer endangered?

Yes, absolutely true, mass murderers and other violent criminals do start out torturing and killing animals. That's why it's important to teach children to treat animals with kindness and respect.

Real hunters, in my opinion, only take animals at specific times of the year, only a certain number, obey the laws and minimize what the animal experiences in its last moments. In other words, real hunters are humane.


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Re: A Monster Among Us

Post by DragonFox98 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:03 pm

felinefan wrote:Real hunters, in my opinion, only take animals at specific times of the year, only a certain number, obey the laws and minimize what the animal experiences in its last moments. In other words, real hunters are humane.
Hey, there, girl! Yes, I try to be as humane as possible...I don't take anything more than my family needs for food and I DON'T bait (as many other hunters I know do). I have also stopped on the side of the road and "helped out" when someone has hit a deer. I've had to humanely put a deer down because they've been hit by a car at 60 mph (thank goodness I carry my hunting knife with me at all times and, in South Jersey, I swear someone hits a deer almost daily - we're all farms). It's not fun (and try not to get hoofed). I'm fortunate....I've got great aim, so, usually, the deer drops almost immediately. And I use bow & arrow NOT guns....guns are cheating, as far as I'm concerned.

Like I said before, something like this just disgusts me. Hobie, I love the pic of Flower with your daughter....deer are among the most gentle creatures. And look at her eyes....so tender!

Wishing your daughter (and Flower) the best.....



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