He never looked right to me...

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He never looked right to me...

Post by BirdMom » Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:53 pm

Is it legal to discuss a sensitive topic here regarding a certain freaky pop star and little boys? I know I saw him snuggled in the security cameras on dark rides with young kids while the fake date would be in another car, yet they'd have the fake date with him on rides that were exposed to the outdoor view...

I know someone who used to be head of security at the hotel (before the company bought it from the Wrather Corporation in the 80's) and this guy was swearing he (the freak) was a pedophile in the 80's...

Anyone else see anything (without mentioning any names so Cujo does't get sued???) That creepy lawyer is going to destroy the reputations of a lot of people just to save that freak's lillywhite skin and he's got no business having or being around children...



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Post by CujoSR » Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:46 pm

Sued? What happened to freedom of speech?

Back to topic... Mr(s) Micheal Jackson needs to listen to some of his own lyrics before touching little boys in the no no place. Billie Jean, Beat It, Leave Me Alone, and Man In The Mirror just to name a few.


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Post by Weeble » Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:39 pm

I was working load at Pirate's twice when Mikey showed up. This was about 6 months after the first charges were brought up and he had kids with him and was holding their hands. I didn't get to look at the cameras though since the ride was swarmed with suits and security.

Gotta give it up for old skool MJ though. Off the wall, tracks 1 and 3. Good stuff.


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Post by BirdMom » Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:51 pm

I distinctly remember his visits with the kid who ended up settling with him (as does my hubby) - I loaded MJ with the boy into a clamshell in service over at the big house (we ended up having to load him there after having cleared out the ride 3 times for his privacy in load - and of course he had to go through the area instead of being backdoored behind NO/Adv. area so he could be adored by the hoi polloi, thus our queue was backed up all to hell... anyway, several of us were commenting that the boy in question wasn't his usual type, since before then he'd been all cuddly with blonde Macauly Culkin types - the hubby and his coworkers in entertainment were making the same comments...

I just used to find the guy incredibly annoying at the Park, rather than anyone to get excited about - just the way that he would go out of his way to circumvent any and all arrangements security tried to make for his safety (along with ensuring that no mob scenes happenned) led me to the conclusion that the guy cannot stand to be unnoticed...even his so called disquises were weird...he has to be the center of attention where-
ever he is...

We got a good laugh at home when one of the news shows was running video of his "secret" room at Neverland. Years ago, my husband had told me about this Batman figure from Neverland ranch that he had seen in a client's location he was working in. All the artists and fabricators in the shop were kind of flipped out over this thing - it's a lifesized fiberglass statue of Batman in the nipple costume, but the costume was kind of worn out from obviously being taken off and put back on frequently. What weirded the guys out was that it had MJ's face. So there in the background of the room video was the same Batman figure. The hubby and I just looked at each other and kind of groaned...it had been in this scene shop for months and months - MJ sent it back to them for repairs and then he couldn't afford to pay to get it back for awhile. Guess he thought he'd better come up with the money or it was going to end up in the irrational enquirer...everyone in that shop knew they could have made big money if they'd photographed it and sold it to one of the tabloids, but then the boss would have been in hot water...

I mention the wear regarding trying on the costume, because when my hubby was still in the parade department he was catching his breath after coming in at Small World gate. He was resting against this limo that had an open door and inside two voices were going back and forth:
You ask him...
No, you ask him...
YOU ask him...
no YOU ask him...

Finally, MJ steps out of the car with this little blonde boy, and they both run up to the guy who was playing Peter Pan and simultaneously burst out

Can we try on your costume?????

UGH!!!



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Post by trojantuba » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:27 pm

I know he's a freak and he looks like an alien...but all I can say is two words...Captain EO...best show ever at Disneyland. When I would work HISTA I would do my exit spiel and then sit and remeber the strains of "Just another part of me" playing as I exited the show. I just think this guy needs help. I really believe that he wants to be around Children in the most innocent way, this guy has been in the public eye since he was a child and his father was a known tyrant. He didn't get to inteact with children in any normal way growing up and I believe him when I say he says he hangs around children because thwy don't judge and aren't after him for somehting other than attention. It's adults that look at this and say.."there is no way possible that a grown man can just want to be around children..there must be something wrong with that" The truth is ..nobody knows what really goes on at NL and we shouldn't pretend like we do.


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Post by BirdMom » Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:09 pm

I had a friend in high school who was a friend of the Jackson family, and she was saying that MJ preferred boys when we were 15/16 and he was 16/17, so this was long before any of his problems were in the press...(my senior year of h.s., she got a few of our clique-myself included- into Motown studios in West Hollywood to watch a recording session, so she's pretty damn credible)

Certain adults do like being around children without having their ulterior motive be sexual arousal...they're teachers, pediatricians, pediatric dentists, therapists, etc. However, all the professionals I've met (and my in-laws are amongst them) don't have sleepovers or secret rooms.

Why should an adult man have sensors that are armed on the approach to his bedroom so that alarms go off if someone is approaching? I don't think the White House has that kind of set up. And why does an adult have a child's guest room next to his own bedroom that is only accessable through that said bedroom? Some of my husband's collegues have been to Neverland, and it's not a normal place - in their opinion. And as I mentioned before, a friend of my husband's used to be head of security at the Disneyland Hotel in the 80's. He's told us of incidents involving MJ and crying children he found wandering the halls of the hotel who were literally rented to MJ for the night or whatever by the parents who were willing to look the other way while they got to stay in luxury suites and have shopping sprees courtesy of MJ. This guy was saying nearly 20 years ago that sooner or later the world was going to find out the MJ was a pedophile and he's been proven right. This man is now a police officer in an O.C. department, and like my brother (who is an L.A. cop) he can pretty much spot the bad guy types at 200 yards. Cripes - working in merchandise, I developed radar for shoplifters, so I understand that ability.

MJ is trotting out all his defenders, which I expect, but for every teenage boy who comes on television and says "he never touched me," I can say "maybe you weren't his type." Even Macauley Culkin was heard to tell the guy to stay the hell away from him, and you don't hear him coming on t.v. to defend MJ. If you want to keep the blinders on and believe the song and dance that's coming from his defenders, that's your perogative. However, just because someone is in the public eye doesn't mean that they are completely good or better than everyone else. For whatever reason, famous people have all these wonderful traits projected on them by the mass public and it isn't always called for. They are as falible as the rest of us, and as in OJ's case can be pretty damn evil as well...



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