Talking durring attractions.

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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by bpgstudios » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:09 am

felinefan wrote:Next time someone acts like they know the ride so well, offer them the opportunity to stop off at the casting office on their way out of the park! After all, if they know the ride that well, it shouldn't take as long to train them.... :D:
Damn good idea! But it will take the same amount of time to train them...since you need to know the operations aspect of the ride, procedures, dealing with guests, etc. There is so much more to do at each attraction than I think even guests that are friends of CM's know about. Someone should write an expose "My life in the Mouse Trap" ;) But thats another thread for another time...

Yes, it bugs me when people speil LOUDLY and don't shut up in attractions, but I'd be a bit of a hypocrite if I said I hate people that do it. Yes, I admit I sometimes speil quietly or mouth the words, sometimes hum or whistle area music, attempt my horribly butchered phonetic spanish speils (Hey they come in handy sometimes), or whatnot. Sometimes its just instinct especially when at one of my own attractions since its ingrained in my head. But I usually don't let it get loud enough to where anyone else can hear me.

I'm OK with people having quiet discussions about the attraction on said attraction, as long as its not a theatre or speil-based attraction like JC or GMR. That is kind of what Walt wanted IMO- a park where the family can have fun together. On Pirates yes it can get annoying at times, but you know what if they are discussing the details of the ride then the Imagineers succeeded. If they are talking about how horrible their flight was then the illusion of the 'fantasy place' hasn't worked for them or they are trying to bring their reality with them. Forget your horrible day when in a Disney Park and just enjoy the damn thing!

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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by GaTechGal » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:48 am

dudspizza wrote:I was at EPCOT last Friday and there was a Mexican family that would not shut up through the entire pre-show for Soarin', heck, we couldn't hear Partrick do the spiel. Then, they ended up right behind up on "Living with the Land" and didn't shut up again.

When we left the pavilion, I actually stopped my wife and watched which direction they went before proceeding on to see Figment.... they were so annoying....
What I REALLY hate is when a party of non-English speakers think they need to have one of thier group translate attractions and do so in a regular speaking voice so everyone can hear. That happened to us the first time in the American Adventure. Had to go over to the Biergarden for a cold one to calm down.



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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by head mouse » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:15 pm

GaTechGal wrote:What I REALLY hate is when a party of non-English speakers think they need to have one of thier group translate attractions and do so in a regular speaking voice so everyone can hear. That happened to us the first time in the American Adventure. Had to go over to the Biergarden for a cold one to calm down.
Oh don't EVEN get me started on that topic. I will say this, and only this. I will NOT defend my responce in any way. This is how I feel and if someone does not like it, then tough titty gritty kitty.

~note this is not directed at you GTG~

*clears throat*

This is The United States of America. Our native toung is American English. If you are going to visit here or live here, then I sugest you learn to read, write and speak english. If I chose to visit or move to Mexico, I would have to learn spanish to survive. I live in North Georgia, We call it "Little Mexico" I swear ther are more mexicans here then in Mexico. It pisses me off that every where I look I see signs, notices, posters, porducts in stores all writen in english and spanish. And hell, I have even see some writen in LARGE Spanish then under it in small print english. WTF???

*end rant*


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by hobie16 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:16 pm

I was in a comedy club where Marsha Warfield, the female baliff in the TV show Night Court, was performing. There were a couple of guys two rows back that were more interested in talking than listening. Marsha finally had enough and told them off with the implied threat that if they didn't shut up she'd wade through the crowd and shut them up. She's big enough to back up the threat.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by mechurchlady » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:11 pm

Worst has to be the off key singers in It's a Small World and other attractions. Also bad is people who sing, spiel or comment when they do not have it down right. I have see several performances by Billy Hill and the Hillbillies where people knew the whole show line by line.

I hate when people say to me or someone else "Did you see that?" which leads to a discussion on what i missed or did not miss. You are there to be entertained so why are you on the cell phone or other device, chatting with people, eating, and otherwise destracted? I am guilty of doing this of course.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by head mouse » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:41 pm

mechurchlady wrote:You are there to be entertained so why are you on the cell phone or other device, chatting with people....
OMG. We were on Pirates (back in 2004 B4 the new add ons) and this lady behind us was on the phone all the way through tthe que line, and then onto the boat she went. She talked so loud We were in the very front of the boat and when we got to the scene where the Pirate Ship is shooting the cannons, I turned to her and said "Would you please shut up so the rest of us can enjoy the ride!" The entire boat started clapping and chearing. She gave me a dirty look and said into her phone "I'll call yo uback in a little bit" and hung up.

I have no problem speaking my mind.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by BirdMom » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:10 pm

head mouse wrote:This is The United States of America. Our native toung is American English. If you are going to visit here or live here, then I sugest you learn to read, write and speak english. If I chose to visit or move to Mexico, I would have to learn spanish to survive. I live in North Georgia, We call it "Little Mexico" I swear ther are more mexicans here then in Mexico.
So if you go to France or Italy for a week, you plan on studying the language for six months or more so that you speak fluently and speak nothing but the local language while you're there? Spanish is my first language, but I speak English to my traveling companions while in Mexico unless I'm speaking with the locals. I mean, be realistic. I don't expect everyone who comes here on vacation to speak the language. Obviously, it's enormously helpful in getting around, but it's not a requirement if someone doesn't intend on establishing residency.

Now if you're talking about moving here to stay, yes, then I agree that one should adopt the local language. But frankly, as I've pointed out at other times, my mother's ancestors have been in California since this was New Spain. Spanish was the first European language spoken in many parts of the U.S., so I find it rather annoying when other folks don't like the sound of it at all. If anything, my family has the right to demand that you gringos get out :D: of California yesterday.

And the only people who really have the right to rant about all of it are the Native Americans, and see how good European culture has been to them :eek: Yes I'm being facetious.

Personally, in all my job functions at Disneyland I was always grateful for one person in a large group of non-English speaking tourists who could translate and get the group to do what we needed them to do. I don't think it's possible to find a hundred different ways to mime "shut up" or "no flash" or "get in the boat," considering that gestures are different for every culture.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by head mouse » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:36 pm

BirdMom wrote:So if you go to France or Italy for a week, you plan on studying the language for six months or more so that you speak fluently
Yes. If I plan to visit another country, I would study the language enough to be able to speak it fluently enough to survive for the duration of my trip. I would not expect that country to list EVERYTHING in their language and English.
BirdMom wrote:and speak nothing but the local language while you're there?
When talking to the locals, ordering food, communicating. Yes. If I am traveling with friends/family I would prob speak English to them (ya know kinda like how Spanish people will hang around a group of non Spanish speaking people and talk to each other in Spanish).
BirdMom wrote:And the only people who really have the right to rant about all of it are the Native Americans,
Then on behalf of the Cherokee Tribe, let me be the first to tell you all to get the hell out. :D: :p:

The point being made is How can anyone expect to conduct business of any kind if you cannot speak the language.

I used to work for a video rental store. In the mornings I would make "late calls" 9 out of 10 calls were to Mexicans who didn’t speak English. So how do I say "Your movies are late, bring them back" No speak English. So we loose the movie because it never got returned.

We lost an average of 10 movies a month due to this.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by MagliteL13 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:22 pm

EpcotGolfer wrote:I sometimes say the punchlines to the old corny Jungle Cruise jokes to myself before the skipper says them. One time I actually got caught on it by a skipper, who then wanted me to come up and do the jokes. I stayed in my seat, but in hindsight, I should've taken him up on the offer.
Next time, I urge you to take him up on the offer. Depending on who the skipper is you may or may not be totally humiliated. That's something that happens at least once a shift. Usually, unless they've been a skipper, what happens with the Jungle Jokes is that the guest doesn't present them in the right way and the crew either doesn't laugh or ends up laughing at the guest and not at the joke. There are many ways to handle that type of situation. Never under estimate a JC skipper. When in doubt, there's always the threat of squeeze play. ;)

Okay, had to get that off my chest.

I hate those that talk over stretch. I'm not trained at Mansion...yet, but a good chunk of my friends work over there. I hate cell phones on boats. I hate loud conversation, that's not related to the spiel, on boats. It ruins the experience of being in the middle of nowhere for the other guests... especially if it's their first time.

I had a couple of DL APs who were heckling me really badly. I love hecklers, they make it interesting--but these guys wouldn't let me get an entire joke out before saying something. While the crew was boarding, I remember hearing a girl say that she'd never been on this before, so the APs just pissed me off even more. It wasn't until they reached for my fake-disney-gun-attached-to-the-boat that I had cause to call security (which is what I quietly did in the temple). Needless to say I don't think they'll be heckling a WDW JC skipper anytime soon.

On rides like SSE, HM (after stretch), and Peter Pan, having a quiet conversation is okay, IMO. Whenever a CM is talking, that's when I draw the line. Ya never know when there's some safety thing gonna be thrown in somewhere.

And one step down, and yeh. Off of the soap box.


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Re: Talking durring attractions.

Post by LittleDollClaudia » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:43 am

:jumps up on her soapbox and takes a deep breath:

I should let this go but I can't. I am going to get personal here. Cujo, Polar, you can slap me later.

Churchy, what color is the sky in the world that you live in? If you had read my post, you would see I encourage people who sing in Small World or other attractions like Splash Mountain. It means that they are living the magic. Now by your comment, does that mean you would excuse children but not happy adults? From your postings it seems that you resent having to share the park with others. Granted, there are some troublemakers, but you sound as if you want to put ALL guests into a cauldron and set it to broil. It's guests like you that are the problem, not the harmless families wanting to enjoy a special day.

Walt gave this wonderful gift to everyone, not just for your solitary usage. I don't believe I have seen you post a positive message, ever. You seriously need to go to the park and just immerse yourself in the joy of being there. Forget about the other people and remember why you started going in the first place. It's a totally different visit.

Think about this for a moment. Some people wait their entire lives to make the journey to visit a Disney park, especially Disneyland. You are able to go whenever you please. Keep that in mind next time you go. Why would guests trek from all over the world to visit there? It must be something pretty damn wonderful for that to happen. Walt made something from nothing. That's an amazing feat. I for one, applaud that and feel lucky ever time I am honored to walk on that soil.

That's my two cents. Feel free to spend them or save them for a rainy day.

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