How Can You Not Know That Guns Are Not Allowed In The Parks?!?!?!

[GaTechGal]

None on Maui. That may be by design as state law sez you have to take a safety course before you can buy a gun. And, if you buy a second one you have to take the course again.

Huh. That's odd. I could see it if they put a time limit on it, but if I just took the course last year, taking it again seems silly. I'm assuming that there is a test at the end to make sure you learned something. If I had to take a second class, I would at least like it to be the intermediate or advanced course.

[Buggy]

In the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting, President Obama issued an executive order to start studying these things. The first report was just released. You can find the report here (Please note: the report is not free although some summary and briefing notes are):

Institute of Medicine - Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence

Slate Magazine had an article summarizing the major findings if you're looking for a shorter read:

Slate Human Nature Blog

There are somethings each side will point to in order to support their arguments.

Thanks. I did not know that and it was an interesting read. (OK, I only read the Slate summary.)

[hobie16]

Forget the classes, get some free mental health programs established.

Milwaukee, Wis. -- A man shot and killed his 6-year-old daughter and then used the gun to kill himself after getting into a physical confrontation with the child’s mother on Sunday.

Lubbock, Tex. -- A 20-year-old man shot and killed the 19-year-old mother of their child and also a 17-year-old man before using the gun to kill himself in what police are describing as a murder-suicide stemming from a domestic dispute early Sunday.

Freeport, Maine --A 66-year-old father shot and killed his 32-year-old son before using the gun to kill himself at their home yesterday morning.

Peyton, Colo. --Two women were found dead in a home and a man suspected in the killings led police on a chase that ended with him using a gun to commit suicide.

St. Peter, Minn. -- A 53-year-old man shot and killed a 48-year-old woman before using the gun to kill himself. The two had dated in the past and the shooter reportedly became jealous after seeing the woman with another man.

Montgomery, Ala. -- A 39-year-old man shot and wounded his 37-year-old wife before using the gun to kill himself at their home about 1:20 p.m.

Conroe, Tex. -- A 19-year-old man was found shot to death inside his car at a park about 8:20 p.m. last night. Witnesses told police the victim was sitting inside his vehicle when he had a confrontation with a man who was outside of the car. The man pulled out a gun and shot the victim. The suspect and another man who was with him fled on foot.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 19-year-old woman was shot and killed and four others -- two 20-year-old men, a 19-year-old woman, and an 18-year-old man -- were wounded while in a car after shots rang out from a vehicle that pulled alongside theirs about 2:30 a.m.

Los Angeles, Calif. -- Two city undercover burglary detectives were shot and wounded when they were ambushed outside a police station about 4:30 a.m. yesterday.

Chicago, Ill. -- Two males each suffered gunshot wounds to their legs about 5:10 p.m. Monday. No word on their conditions.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 21-year-old man was shot in the hip and foot about 6 p.m. Monday. His condition was listed as stabilized.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 19-year-old man was shot in the head about 6:30 p.m. Monday. He was in critical condition.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 29-year-old man was shot in the buttocks while on a street about 10:30 p.m. Monday. He was listed in good condition.

Woodbridge, Conn. -- When three women and a 20-year-old man began to argue while driving about 1:30 a.m. Monday, the man ordered two of the women out of the car and then opened fire on them, striking one of the women in the hand and upper torso.

Philadelphia, Penn. -- Two men, both 24-years-old, were shot and wounded about 1:30 p.m. today while standing on a street corner.

Pittsburgh, Penn. -- A 24-year-old man shot and killed his 25-year-old girlfriend before using the gun to kill himself at a home on Tuesday. A neighbor said the couple had broken up Monday.

Greenville, N.C. -- A 23-year-old with a pistol-gripped shotgun allegedly shot a man in a car outside a law firm, then he crossed five lanes of traffic and allegedly shot three people outside a big-box discount department store before police shot and wounded him.

Denver, Colo. -- Two men and a woman were shot and wounded when someone in a passing pick-up truck opened fire on them last night.

[felinefan]

Notice how many of those were in Chicago?

[hobie16]

This batch is from all over.

MAHOPAC, NY, 6/25/13: Orser was cleaning weapons before going to a gun show in Rockland County and shot himself in the chest, Johnson said. Orser’s wife found him dead about 11:35 p.m. Tuesday in their home, police said. “He cleans the guns and polishes them up (before the show),” Johnson said. “He was found on the floor, surrounded by rifles and shotguns.” “He is a survivalist. He deals with guns, he goes to gun shows,” Johnson said. “He supposedly was a firearms expert and a safety instructor also.”

LINCOLN, NE, 6/19/13: Hey, I'd like to buy your gun. Can I see it? Is it loaded? No? OK, great, I just—BLAM! Uh, thanks. I changed my mind, though. Bye.

JEROME, ID, 6/21/13: Jerome County Sheriff Doug McFall said deputy Anthony Gratzer did not need hospital treatment when shrapnel hit him. A friend of Gratzer's brought a new gun to the deputy's home to show it off Friday, McFall said. Gratzer cleared the gun and gave it back to his friend, but at some point the gun was reloaded, McFall said. McFall said Gratzer's friend shot himself in the knee, and shrapnel from the bullet hit Gratzer in the side of his abdomen. Gratzer was shaken up and now won't allow anyone to bring weapons to his house.

MARIETTA, GA, 6/21/13: Marietta man is accused of accidentally shooting his neighbor’s house while attempting to shoot birds in is garden.

HERNDON, VA, 6/22/13: A man's gun discharged while he was loading it inside of his home, striking a passing bike rider, police said.

MEMPHIS, TN, 6/22/13: By 5 o'clock Saturday morning, 54 year-old Patrick Spencer was in custody in connection with his wife's shooting death. He told police she was accidentally shot in the chest during an argument over insurance inside their Berclair neighborhood home.

MODOC, IN, 6/22/13: A 12-year-old boy was killed Saturday after he was accidentally shot with a gun.

DAVENPORT, IA, 6/22/13: Albert “A.J” Coats was arrested Saturday in Milan, and is charged with second degree murder in the death of Amanda Abbott, 25. Afterwards, friends of both Coats and the victim contend it was an accidental shooting. “There was a bullet stuck in the chamber and he was trying to get it loose and it went off”, said one woman after court. “It was a freak accident. Lives are ruined and lost and I know he feels bad and he’s scared”, said Nancy Hoffman. “Everyone was intoxicated, he didn’t know how to handle it properly and she got shot.” she said.

NEW ORLEANS, LA, 6/23/13: A 5-year-old girl in New Orleans died Sunday after, police believe, she accidentally shot herself in the head.

PHOENIX, AZ, 6/23/13: A man accidentally shot himself in the leg in west Phoenix Sunday after he and three friends committed robbery during a “business transaction,” police said. Three men and a woman drove to the victims’ home near 67th Avenue and Thomas Road, police said. “During the transaction, the suspects proceeded to rob the victims,” Phoenix Police Sgt. Steve Martos said Sunday. Three children under 7 were home at the time, Martos said. As the four fled, one accidentally shot himself in the leg, Martos said. “The other suspects left him behind and fled in a vehicle,” Martos said.

CORRECTIONVILLE, IA, 6/23/13: Authorities say a 45-year-old northwest Iowa man who was trying to shoot a caged raccoon accidentally shot himself. The uninjured raccoon was released back into the woods.

RUTHERFORD CO., NC, 6/23/13: A Rutherford County teenager is recovering, after she was shot by her cousin. It was a brand new handgun, bought just hours before. Officials say volunteer fireman Ray Ponder was showing his thirteen-year-old cousin Ashley Williams his brand new .45 handgun, bought just hours before, putting it back in it's case when he fired.

KILN, MS, 6/23/13: A Kiln man who was sleeping on his couch Sunday afternoon received a rude and frightening wake-up call when he was struck by a stray bullet that was fired from a mile away, authorities said Monday.

BANGOR, ME, 6/24/13: The city’s new police chief was cleaning his weapon Monday night and apparently shot himself in the hand. Chief Mark Hathaway, a 25-year veteran officer who was selected as the city’s new chief in April, had just returned from training with their new guns in Brewer when the shooting took place.

NEW ORLEANS, LA, 6/24/13: Through their investigation, detectives determined that the 37-year-old man was in an argument with a 29-year-old man. The 29-year-old pulled a gun and shot the 37-year-old multiple times. In the process, the 29-year-old accidentally shot his girlfriend in the foot.

DECATUR, AR, 6/26/13: The parents of the five-year-old Benton County boy who accidentally shot himself in the face earlier this week have been arrested and face several felony charges associated with the incident.

[Main Streeter]

CORRECTIONVILLE, IA, 6/23/13: Authorities say a 45-year-old northwest Iowa man who was trying to shoot a caged raccoon accidentally shot himself. The uninjured raccoon was released back into the woods.

I would call this justice.

[hobie16]

I would call this justice.

Or karma. ;)

[hobie16]

Some justice, some karma and some other stuff.

Honey Grove, Tex. -- A 47-year-old woman shot and killed her 51-year-old husband yesterday morning, then she called 911 to report the incident before using the gun to kill herself.

Grand Prairie, Tex. -- After a 39-year-old man drove to the home of his 37-year-old ex-wife, he shot and killed the woman in her neighbor’s yard and then shot and killed her 41-year-old boyfriend inside the home before driving to his apartment and using the gun to kill himself.

Port Arthur, Tex. -- At a busy beach on Sunday, a man shot and killed a 31-year-old woman and a 34-year-old man before using the gun to kill himself.

Denver, Colo. -- On Tuesday, a 32-year-old man shot and killed his wife and later, when confronted by police after a car chase, used the gun to kill himself.

Malott, Wash. -- When a 65-year-old landlord and his wife tried to evict a 47-year-old tenant, the tenant pulled out a handgun and shot and killed the landlord before using the gun to kill himself.

Calais, Maine -- In an incident police described as an act of domestic violence, a 26-year-old man shot and wounded a 21-year old woman and the pair’s 6-week-old daughter before he was shot and killed by police at a home yesterday evening. The baby was grazed by a bullet and was expected to be okay.

Akron, Ohio -- Two men, ages 29 and 23, were shot about 2:15 p.m. Tuesday when a pair of suspects tried to get inside their car as they were stopped on a street.

Durham, N.C. -- A 36-year-old man was found shot and wounded in a vehicle parked at a convenience-store parking lot about 5:30 p.m.

Los Angeles, Calif. -- A 41-year-old man was shot and wounded while driving on an interstate highway when a vehicle with four occupants pulled alongside and one or more of the occupants opened fire on his car about 12:30 p.m.

Omaha, Neb. -- A 24-year-old woman was put in an ambulance when she became convulsive and unresponsive after she was arrested, but during transport to a hospital she pulled a gun and shot at a fire department medic riding with her. The bullet grazed the medic.

Pittsburgh, Penn. -- A man was shot several times in the arm and chest at close range by a 20-year-old man. The shooter broke the victim’s car window to lure him from his house.

Metairie, La. -- Two 16-year-old boys were shot and wounded when they argued over a marijuana cigarette. One of boys shot the other, then a relative of the wounded boy shot the shooter.

Grants Pass, Ore. -- A 5-year-old girl was shot killed and a 44-year-old woman was shot and wounded while in a second story apartment after a weapon described by police as an assault rifle went off in the hands of a 30-year-old man in a downstairs apartment and the flying bullets struck the two victims. A neighbor reported hearing a gunshot, then rapid firing. The man with the gun was arrested on charges of manslaughter, assault, and illegal possession of a machine gun. The wounded woman was listed in stable condition.

[felinefan]

The ones who killed themselves after killing others saved their respective states a bundle in costs associated with incarceration, trying and punishing them.

[DisneyMom]

The ones who killed themselves after killing others saved their respective states a bundle in costs associated with incarceration, trying and punishing them.

Eeeep. This happened to a gal I went to High School with. Her Ex-husband (I hung around with both of them) was bizarre and she said someday he'd kill her. She had a gun to protect herself but her Ex broke into her place one night and she didn't have a chance to defend herself. He went home, sent their son to school, and then shot himself when he heard the Cops at the front door. GA. Tech Gal may remember if she lived near Marietta, GA. about 10 years ago. Becky worked for the local paper, so they had several articles told from a more personal perspective. :(