Goofyernmost wrote:The one thing that changed all that was the woman's movement. Before I get shot, I'm not saying that there was anything wrong with women striving for equality, that's a given! However, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If woman rightfully feel that there should be equality of the sexes, then I am left wondering why one would then turn around and expect "special" treatment due to their gender.
Give me one specific reason why a woman cannot standup on a bus as well as a man.* Basically, as far as I have been able to tell over my last 64 years, woman are as strong, have more endurance and generally are more physically fit then their male counterparts. So, why wouldn't a woman get up from her seat to let a man sit down? What would be the actual difference?
People holding a small child, male or female, might warrant the giving of a seat, but otherwise, there is no longer a specific reason for doing so. Age and disability also play a factor, but, not in any gender related way. Chivalry stemmed from a time when women were considered weak, unable to care for themselves and needed to be protected. I'm afraid that ship has sailed and with it a lot of old fashioned, degrading baggage. I'm sure it was nice to be "pampered" but in this life, you really cannot have everything. If you want a seat, then you must get on first, that's the new way of the world. Chivalry carried with it a number of perks directed at one gender. Chivalry also carried with it a number of demeaning and degrading attitudes. I would think that equality is a much better thing.
*The same would apply to why it is more difficult for a woman to put a toilet seat down as it is for a man to put it up? And do women, when leaving the bathroom put the seat back up to ease the burden of the man? But that's another thread, in another place, at another time!
You put into words what I was thinking about the whole situation. When I go to the parks, not being the most physically fit, getting a seat on the monorail or bus is very helpful. As for the whole toilet thing, EXACTLY!
DisneyMom wrote:Chivalry? I'd settle for people not so anxious to push thru a packed crowd at the Castle Lighting to not physically attack.....One Person thought that pushing thru with a stroller was going to happen until I reminded him he was now on top of my ankle,another person -a woman apparently-clawed her nails into my back as we were slowly shuffling away. There was no prior contact with these people in case anyone was wondering,they were just people who thought their rights somehow superceded all others and I happened to be in their way.
Lesson Learned, I'm not going to ever get myself packed in anymore.
You should try going early to a cast preview for a parade in the MK. The CPs are insane. They push and shove at West Clock to get on the bus, they'll open gates when a CM is trying to count heads, causing a flood of people to go through the gate too early, all kinds of pushing and rude behavior. I'll never go early again. Or at a ride preview, they'll scream and yell just as bad as the worst cheerleaders or tour groups. They'll stomp, scream and swear in the ride vehicle. Some of the most annoying behavior I've ever seen. It's worse than just about anything I've witnessed during public events (and I remember leaving the MK on the 40th, and how hellish that was).