Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by hobie16 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:37 pm

Monorail_Red wrote:Voltage and amperage may be the same, but the WDW system's power grid obviously has a much higher wattage capacity.
That would be an incorrect assumption. The three are interrelated as in V x A = W, W / V = A, or W / A = V.


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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by Monorail_Red » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:56 pm

hobie16 wrote:That would be an incorrect assumption. The three are interrelated as in V x A = W, W / V = A, or W / A = V.
I can't think of the proper terminology, I'm no electrical engineer, but there's definitely something different between the 2 systems.


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Post by Main Streeter » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:05 am

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Oh PLEASE do. :D: :D: Ernie still can't figure out who you are. ;) Am having such fun with this one. :cool:



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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by hobie16 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:49 am

Main Streeter wrote:Oh PLEASE do. :D: :D: Ernie still can't figure out who you are. ;) Am having such fun with this one. :cool:
I am a Fig Newton of his imagination.


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Post by Main Streeter » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:17 pm

hobie16 wrote:I am a Fig Newton of his imagination.
LOL. Oh ya, like this remark will help. :D:



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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by Zazu » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:44 pm

Monorail_Red wrote:The WDW system's power grid obviously has a much higher wattage capacity.
hobie16 wrote:That would be an incorrect assumption. The three are interrelated as in V x A = W, W / V = A, or W / A = V.
Monorail_Red wrote:I can't think of the proper terminology, I'm no electrical engineer, but there's definitely something different between the 2 systems.
I am an electrical engineer; perhaps I can help.

First, both systems are powered from 600V DC.

Second, the amperage on the WDW network is a bit higher on account of the heavier trains and AC load. The DL monorails could probably be upgraded with better AC by putting larger or more contactors on the rail. Might need a larger rail or more feeders, that would take some calculation.

Finally, the power rating of the *system* is higher at WDW because there are more electrical blocks to supply the rails. This, plus an operating procedure that keeps more than one train from entering a power block at the same time keeps the number of trains/feeder to less than one. More blocks, thus more system power capacity, despite having the same voltage and nearly the same amperage.

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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by Goofyernmost » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:49 pm

Zazu wrote:I am an electrical engineer; perhaps I can help.

First, both systems are powered from 600V DC.

Second, the amperage on the WDW network is a bit higher on account of the heavier trains and AC load. The DL monorails could probably be upgraded with better AC by putting larger or more contactors on the rail. Might need a larger rail or more feeders, that would take some calculation.

Finally, the power rating of the *system* is higher at WDW because there are more electrical blocks to supply the rails. This, plus an operating procedure that keeps more than one train from entering a power block at the same time keeps the number of trains/feeder to less than one. More blocks, thus more system power capacity, despite having the same voltage and nearly the same amperage.

Any questions? Or are we ready for the quiz?
Sure...but what if the "D" cell battery goes dead and one of the hamsters falls off it's wheel. What then, Mr. Engineer, what then?


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Post by drcorey » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:55 pm

Goofyernmost wrote:Sure...but what if the "D" cell battery goes dead and one of the hamsters falls off it's wheel. What then, Mr. Engineer, what then?
don't worry, they use rats, not hamsters.
rats have more power force per paw.


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Re: Bye-Bye to TRON-o-Rail

Post by hobie16 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:08 pm

Goofyernmost wrote:Sure...but what if the "D" cell battery goes dead and one of the hamsters falls off it's wheel. What then, Mr. Engineer, what then?
They're bigger than D cells.


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