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Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:15 am
by mechurchlady
After 3 years VMK will close at 10 pm on May 21, 2008. I have been there since July or August of 2005. Some of us spent money on pins, hats and DVDs so we could get codes for game stuff. Until recently you could buy the codes though Ebay.
disney apparently is tired of the free ride and will be doing Cars and Fairies type of sites much like VMK, Pirates, Club Penguin and ToonTown.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:38 pm
by February
After the disaster of the quest last week, I'm honestly not surprised they pulled the plug.
My family has been on VMK since summer of 06 and spent countless hours there- but I honestly got sick of watching my child cry over it. Unfair host games, quests set up so it was impossible for a child even with an adult (my husband) helping her to finish, and the constant crashes. The infrastructure of the game has not kept up with the number of players.
I guess they decided instead of trying to turn it into a pay to play to kill it. My child is upset, but frankly, the way the game had gone downhill since she spent literally an entire month during dreams month hanging out in rooms trying to get dreams ears- which she finally got thanks to a friend- that was when the charm wore off of VMK for me.
The seriously mishandled it in the past six months especially- and I think that Yavn sealed their fate with the tirade he posted in the newsletter last week, which prompted me to write a very pointed letter and was very soon deleted and replaced with another message.
Sad to see it go, but in another way, it was gone for us already.
I feel bad for people who spent a ton of money to get codes buying pins and movies to redeem for magic from Disney movie rewards. Glad we didn't. But I wish I had the hours of our lives back that we have wasted on stupid quests for lines of code that will soon be even more worthless than they were to begin with.
Bru
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:24 am
by mechurchlady
I cannot take sweephunter in because of being banned a second time, next is her end.
I was banned for saying I was disabled and for saying was going to DCland which meand disconnection land.
I remember the 600 people in line for the whole day not knowing they were disconnected.
The thieves and perverts.
The bugs that never went away.
Hoochie momma outfits.
Quests that could nto be completed.
Impossible to get funds for new items.
In Club Penguin I can easily get credits for new stuff but in VMK it took me 5 hours to get the new magic pin last year. It is not fun any more when everyone is banned. Bans are cumulative so that saying "I live in Columbia" could be a life tiem ban. I lost so many friends who quit.
There was the eye pin which some people have 30 of but only one day was it given out to moderator friends. Eagles Nest was a friends only room where VMK Eagle hung with mods. It still has lag problems and for two years we begged for them to fix the disconnection after 30 minutes problem. We begged for a lot of things but they did not care.
VMK was my home and full of friends but it was a living hell at the same time because of the fights over games and mod favourism. The hell of waiting hours to get into a game only to crash or be 202 in line and it is just a few seconds into the start of the game. I loved it, worked on a board about it and am a member of several VMK boards. Miss it but remember the damned horrible days of pain, crying, hurt and frustration because Disney did not give a damned about little kids, its clients or the game players.
Typical Disney attitude it seems.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:48 am
by February
((((((Churchy)))))))))
Warning this is going to be really long LOL. Maybe two posts worth, I am so livid over this whole thing.
Believe me, I feel your pain. One of the things I initially loved about VMK was that I could 'walk' around the park with my daughter and be a 'regular' person. In the real MK, I am in a chair, or hobbling around on my crutch to get in and out of boats (which I am so lucky to be able to do I know I feel for those who cannot ever get out of their chairs).
We joined VMK Fourth of July weekend of 2006. My first VMK frustration came from the Jack Sparrow suit thing with the online POTC promotion. I tried for months at it literally and meantime people were using scripts to beat the game and then selling the suits! VMK should have responded by simply putting the suit on sale in the game or giving it to everyone. They did not.
I never understood the concept of making items 'rare' in a game for children. I know that most of VMK's players are adults but that's beside the point- it was marketed to children and a LOT of parents who were also players like myself spent more time trying to procure things for their kids and help them with quests and things than playing for their own items.
Dreams month was a huge disaster and was for me the last straw. Any VMK time I have spent on since then has been just to play a game here or there with my family when they wanted me to- but with my increasing vision issues that has been few and far between. My husband would log me on to be sure I didn't lose my stuff.
You know, that reminds me of another thing. My favorite game used to be the Fireworks game- then they changed it. With my vision issues, I could never play it after the new version came out.
I wrote to VMK more than once and asked if they would consider creating a game that could earn credits that could be easier to use for their visually impaired guests. They never bothered to answer me.
What breaks my heart now is reading posts other places about Autistic kids who have become so attached to VMK and having it ripped away is doing real psychological damage to them. I hope that their parents can find some kind of viable alternative for them.
I was so disgusted over the Blackheart Quest that I was done with VMK either way- but saying goodbye is still sad. I have some fun memories there-among them last new years eve with friends in their guest room- we had a total blast. Fun times with my kid and husband too.
The bannings were all over the place- people could go around the language filters and swear at you all day long in a game of POTC but people got banned for stupid things like the DCL comment you mentioned. All over the map and no consistency and people who got banned who were doing bad things were back the next day with another mule and laughing about it.
Mismanaged, mishandled, and disheartening in the end. I am just glad this announcment came out BEFORE our upcoming trip- we would have bought a bunch of VMK pins with codes. I feel bad for those who did.
I honestly think the nail in the coffin was Yavn's (whoever he really is these days, somehow it seems he either changed at some point or another person took on the name from the original) ill-advised rant about how cheaters spoiled the quest and how life is hard and some people didn't want to work for the treasure. I was seeing RED when I read that. He has no idea how hard people worked to help their kids get through that quest.
My letter to VMK told them that if they want to talk about difficulties in life- talk to my kid. She has had more than her share, and then I started listing them but by no means included them all. I did this knowing she is still darn lucky- a lot of kids are not as blessed. I said shame on them for lecturing US on how life is rough to justify their mishandling a GAME for CHILDREN.
The next day- after I and a lot of others wrote those letters- Yavn's original message mysteriously disappeared. That didn't stop my husband from writing his own letter and sending it over VMK's head to corporate- snail mail, and email.
They had a brilliant marketing tool and could have converted it into a pay to play and fixed some things. But they blew it. They just blew it.
Bru
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:04 pm
by drcorey
it's a mess because of the sysops and admins that don't know what they are doing. and the programmers aren't too swift either. I wonder if the servers are unstable also. geez, I wonder which software they are using. I see other CGI based game servers with little or no bugs. i.e. fairytopia is one.
or even earth and beyond with it's 2 dvd client too.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:16 pm
by mechurchlady
servers are shit as in worthless as we had major lags with new stuff and when magic was used. automaticalkly kicking people every half hour while other sites you can stay on for ever.
I can feel then see the cheaters in Fireworks game.
I have DSL and upgraded memory but crash.
they lost good moderators and then stopped the community leader program. Reporting problems means them giving a smarmy answer.
i am to slleeepy to continue but it was fun and friendship, sigh.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:43 pm
by February
Oh boy and now I see on some other boards there is someone setting up basically a clone of VMK- saying it's going to be free, but then saying they are allowing for 'subscriptions' to perhaps be offered for 'advanced features' in the future- can you say scam???? how do they think they can get away with using Disney images and trademarks so closely? If they think Disney's legal department won't land on them like a ton of bricks they're deluding themselves. . .and it breaks my heart to see people so desperate over VMK potentially closing they're signing up for this site in advance providing email addresses and everything! What are they thinking???
UGH What a MESS if Disney would just offer to let people pay to play then invest some real resources into the game. . .they could yet save themselves from the wrath of so many upset fans.
ugh ugh ugh. This situation just gets worse all the time. Not that VMK is closing- I think it's good for people to realize there's a real world out there- but the way people are reacting. It's frightening.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:57 pm
by Sarah Magdalene
I don't get how people can be so upset over a video game. One of my friends had quit college so she can play her World Of Warcraft game more often! Not just that, she even visited some guys from her WOW "guild" in another state, hooked up with one of them, broke up and then dated his ex-wife. And don't get me started on the young guy who actually committed suicide after his Everquest character perished. Then again, that's one link in the human gene chain we really don't need reproducing anyway! (then again, he probably had no real life in the first place due to isolation in his basement - no chance in meeting women, dating etc)
I tried the VMK thing, found it very boring, hard to earn points, and over all very frustrating.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:59 pm
by mechurchlady
I will be in there soon, captain blue toes and sweephunter.
I can understand how much people loved the site as it was full of friends and good things like compassion and friendship.
Re: Virtual Magic Kingdom (VMK) closing
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:41 pm
by February
mechurchlady wrote:I will be in there soon, captain blue toes and sweephunter.
I can understand how much people loved the site as it was full of friends and good things like compassion and friendship.
Churchy, do you mean you signed up for the clone site? The one all the other boards were buzzing about?
I tried to warn people all day about signing up and giving anyone your VMK username and email address but people did not listen- and apparently now there are issues with the VMK accounts of some of the people who did sign up for the 'other' game.
I would highly recommend that if you signed up for the VMK -like site that you change your account information on the actual Disney site asap.
There were those saying that there was a warning sent out over VMK last night in some guest rooms telling people not to join up- saying it was not Disney run and they shouldn't give their information out. I didn't see that myself though. But it seems to me that the clone site is doomed to failure either way there is no way Disney will let anyone use anything close to their trademarks like that.
I hope that you didn't sign up for it- it's looking more and more all the time like it was a scam.
Bru