Stupid Guest Tricks

The fight broke out at 1 am between three teams ages 14-16 years old. From what I heard one of the kids got a broken nose.

The teams involved were the Westport Patriots of Baltimore; the Kahalu’u Hei’eia Broncos of Kailua, Hawaii; and the Waianae Tigers of Waianae, Hawaii. All three teams were told to get out of their All-Star Resort rooms and to get off of WDW and Disney property.


Most teams are hard hit by the trip to WDW for Pop Warner and cheerleading competitions. Often the cost is overwhelming with mandatory on site stays, mandatory ticket purchases and other expenses. Read the article to see how hard hit these parents are.

http://www.boston.com/sports/schools/fo ... ve_to_pay/

order to participate in the Pop Warner national football and cheerleading championships in December, children on teams nationwide were required to stay at Disney hotels and buy tickets to other parks within Walt Disney World. Pop Warner stands all but alone among organizations that impose such requirements on teams competing for national titles at the Disney complex.

Guess mom and dad will have to have a talk with junior about controlling himself and perhaps not allow sports to take over their lives? THUS making them SG's!

They should have just shipped them to Animal Kingdom. Act like an animal...

Okay, reading the article they make it sound like Disney is the bad guy for making these kids pay. What about ME, I want to go to WDW for FREE or at a reduced price! I'm sure they aren't paying rack rate or gate prices for the tickets...

Bah, if it's too expensive, then don't go. I want to visit every Disney Theme park around the globe but I can't afford it, so I'm not going. I also want to go into space, but that's a whole other thread...

mechurchlady wrote:Most teams are hard hit by the trip to WDW for Pop Warner and cheerleading competitions. Often the cost is overwhelming with mandatory on site stays, mandatory ticket purchases and other expenses. Read the article to see how hard hit these parents are.

Wow! No wonder Disney puts up with cheerleader hell.

These kids were disruptive and fighting and Disney handled it correctly. The kids need to learn to control themselves and show respect so they will not be kicked out of a place for being stupid and destructive.
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Leave it to a team from Baltimore... I don't know how people are in Hawaii (Hobie, you can fill us in...) but in my area, the kids are just f*ckin' ghetto! And their parents encourage it! I doubt the parents will have any such conversation with junior about "controlling their temper". I'd bet that the kid who broke another kids nose has the proudest parents of the group right now ("well, we got kicked out, but at least you whooped his ass!") Further, I'd guess that the ignorant fools in Baltimore are trying to find a road map that'll help them drive to Hawaii right now ("I think that's in southern Virginia, right?") so they can go finish the fight!

And by the way, what kind of lame ass fight ends with only one broken nose? There's, what...at least 40 kids on a football team? How did 120 kids fight and there's only one broken nose? I wanna see some carnage in a fight that big! Bunch of wanna-be thugs. I hate morons. :mad:

Kwahati wrote:Leave it to a team from Baltimore... I don't know how people are in Hawaii (Hobie, you can fill us in...) but in my area, the kids are just f*ckin' ghetto! And their parents encourage it! I doubt the parents will have any such conversation with junior about "controlling their temper".

Not knowing the ethnic makeup of the three teams or who got a busted nose, I'll generalize about teams from Hawaii. But first, a little history.

Depending on whom you talk to Hawaii was annexed into the US by popular demand or at the end of a bayonet. It is still a battle that is being fought to this day. Regardless of how it happened, Hawaii’s primary business for years was agriculture based with sugar cane and pineapple being the primary products. They were grown on plantations. Housing was provided by the plantation owners and usually grew into towns.

There were distinct class lines; workers and owners/managers. It wasn’t quite as bad as the old deep south but there were the have’s and have nots.

Plantation agriculture is pretty much dead throughout Hawaii. There is still some cane and pine but global pricing has pretty much killed it here. Unfortunately, a lot of people still act like they’re in plantation mode. If you’re here as a tourist you’ll mostly see the aloha (love) spirit but scratch the surface and you’re liable to see some real racial tensions. The most commonly heard phrase is, “F****** haole!” You’ll hear it from adults and kids.

My really haole daughter comes home with stories that really make you wonder what parents are teaching their children. Two girls she met who were half Hawaiian, half Latino, told her they liked to give haoles a welcome Hawaiian style. I don’t think any lei was involved.

Another friend who runs a small business tells me that the parents actively try to get the kids to flunk out of school so they won’t leave the island. The kids have no clue on what the big world has to offer them and end up surfing, working some low level job in construction or the hotels and smoking pakalolo or moving up to ice.

The age of consent here is 14. I see kids that have kids who have no clue on what their life could have been like if they’d just finished school. I’ve seen letters to the editor stating it’s okay for their 14 year-old daughter to dance in hostess bars.

Anyway, I’d guess two Hawaiian teams and a Baltimore team got into the same room, exchanged some insults and it was game on.

Disney may have over reacted but it’s a pretty good bet the word will get out and it won’t happen again.

Kwahati wrote:....(redacted rant) And by the way, what kind of lame ass fight ends with only one broken nose? There's, what...at least 40 kids on a football team? How did 120 kids fight and there's only one broken nose? I wanna see some carnage in a fight that big! Bunch of wanna-be thugs. I hate morons. :mad:

I don't think it was ALL 120 kids, by the sound of it, it was probably a few from each team, because if it was 120 kids, the headlines would be reading "BASEBALL RIOT AT WDW" rather than the teams being kicked out in the middle of the night.

When people say they think Disney is overreacting I pose the question: what would have happened if they stayed? Basically another Wanna-be-thug SG would try to get revenge on the kid who broke his friends nose and it would go back and forth. Basically Disney was saying "Ok, you want to beat the shit of each other? Fine, but you aren't doing it on my property. Get out." We all know what would happen if another kid got hurt, "Why didn't they get kicked out? This could have been prevented!"
Sigh...people need to behave...