A black princess? It's about frickin' time.

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Post by darph nader » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 pm

Damn,Zazu. My hat/hair off to you. Sad to say,you are right on the $$$$.
Sad to say,most people never 'look' at the 'ethnic' back-ground,just at her good looks. :(



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Post by felinefan » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:29 am

In case anyone's interested....
The story of Cinderella and her glass slipper actually goes back to ancient Egypt. A princess of Lower Egypt was bathing in the Nile, and looked up to see an eagle make off with one of her slippers. The eagle flew over Upper Egypt, dropping the slipper, which fell into the lap of the king as he sat dispensing royal justice. Impressed with the slipper's dainty size and delicate shape, he sent all over Egypt to find the slipper's owner. When the king and the princess finally met, it was love at first sight, and they married. An Egyptologist later found and translated the story into French. When it was still later being translated into English, the translator mistook the French word "vaire", or fur--it was a fur slipper, btw--for the word "verre", or glass. With embellishments added, plus a name given to the princess (and demotion to an orphan girl forced to be the housemaid to her stepmother and stepsisters), Cinderella and her "glass" slipper have been inseperable ever since. I think I read that years ago in an issue of "Ripley's Believe It Or Not." If anyone is really interested, I'll tell you the German version of the story; it's a bit gross, though.



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Re: A black princess? It's about frickin' time.

Post by Zazu » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:30 pm

[quote="felinefan"]If anyone is really interested, I'll tell you the German version of the story]You mean the version where the new Princess orders her stepmother and sisters to dance at her wedding ... wearing red-hot iron shoes? I sorta like that version! :ruby:


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Post by LittleDollClaudia » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:19 am

Or is it about how the stepsisters cut pieces of their feet off to make theirs fit into the slipper? You won't see that on a Disney retrospective! :eek:


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Post by mechurchlady » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:01 am

Sorry but it was the Grimms version of Snow White that had the red hot iron shoes put on the evil queen's feet and then she danced to her death.
http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~kvander/white10.html

Cinderella by the Grimms has one step-sister cutting off her toe and the other a bit of her heel. The tattletale pigeons plucked one eye from each step-sister on the way to the wedding and they took the other on the way back . "And thus, for their wickedness and falsehood, they were punished with blindness as long as they lived."

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/grimm/cinderella.html

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Post by hobie16 » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:27 pm

Last night Jay Leno asked if the movie title will be Sleeping Booty.


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Post by felinefan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:06 am

LittleDollClaudia is right. But the version I was told in my high school German class was that as each of the stepsisters rode out of the front gate sitting behind the prince on horseback, it was a rooster, not pigeons. The rooster crowed, "Cock-a-doodle-doo! Blood in the shoe!" The prince looked, and sure enough, there was blood in the shoe. So the prince turned around, and asked the stepmother why she had been deceitful. She apologized, and got her other daughter; same thing happened when they were riding towards the gate. After a second confrontation from the prince, the stepmother finally admitted to having an "ugly" stepdaughter (Cinderella), which the prince insisted on seeing. The shoe was, presumably, cleaned up before being fitted to Cinderella's foot. When she and the prince rode out of the gate, the rooster crowed, "Cock-a-doodle-doo! No blood in the shoe!" (or was it, "Your bride is true"? Whatever.) The prince checked, sure enough, no blood, so they got married, etc.. As for the stepmother wearing deadly shoes, I remember they were iron shoes, not heated, and being forced to dance in them until she died. But face it, it's been decades since I last read the story.



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Post by jazaaumom » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:15 am

Speaking of not noticing the ethnic history and looking at cute little bodies, why can't they make a heroine with real portion sizes or disability. Eating posion apples is not what I consider a disability. :D:



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Post by BRWombat » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:03 am

jazaaumom wrote:Speaking of not noticing the ethnic history and looking at cute little bodies, why can't they make a heroine with real portion sizes or disability. Eating posion apples is not what I consider a disability. :D:
That's one of the (many) things I love about Lilo & Stitch. Lots of more realistic body shapes.


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Post by ktulu » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:37 am

BRWombat wrote:That's one of the (many) things I love about Lilo & Stitch. Lots of more realistic body shapes.
Yep! I remember when it came out there was some hoolabaloo about that.


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