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Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:56 am
by PapaMouse
Theme Park Where wrote:I tried to sit quietly and ignore this thread but I can't since it's something that really bothers me when I'm in the park, both as a guest and a cm. The rules are pretty clear - as a guest ANY line holding is against the rules, whether you're one person or ten, whether you leave to get an ice cream or go to the bathroom. The policy is, if one person returns to or joins the line, the rest of their party goes BACK in line to meet them. That's the official, bona fide, policy. Is it enforced? No, not always. It depends on the line, the cms, the guests, and the situation.

However in the situation described, sending one person to get fastpasses to another attraction while the rest of the party gets in line, it's not only line jumping by the park's official policy but it's a violation of the fastpass policy, which requires that the whole party be present to get fastpasses at the same time as well. Again, it's a policy that isn't always enforced, and many people DO get all their party's tickets together and do a fastpass run, but the rules actually DO state that everyone in the party should be present to get a fastpass. It's designed to allow cms to ensure everyone who gets a fastpass will be able to ride (height restrictions, medical problems, etc.). Most CMs have no problem with one member of a party getting fastpasses for everyone, as long as that party doesn't come back later to complain that they weren't all able to ride for some reason. It's one of those rules that protects some of the guests from disappointment, and we assume that most guests aren't helped or hurt by following or not following it.

Sending one person to get fastpasses WHILE the other members of your party get in line for another attraction, though, is NOT permitted. Period. It's against park policy. Many cms will "assist guests with catching up with their party" simply because they don't know the policy, or it's too much trouble to enforce, or they have a situation where a guest really didn't have a choice (ie the bathroom emergency) and it's inconvienient to other guests but they can smooth things over for the guest who suddenly found themselves in an unfortunate emergency and can help them carry on enjoying their day. Your situation is different however. You are not in an emergency. You are declaring that the time you save by holding a place in line for one person from your party who runs to get fastpasses is more important than the inconvenience to other guests in line, or unfairness to others who all wait in line together as they are required to do. Your argument that it's not your fault if they weren't smart enough to break the rules like you do quite frankly really disturbs me.

I worked at RnR and had I caught you doing it in my line, I would have made you and your party go to the end of the line. That's my job and I take it very seriously.
Sending one person to get a groups FP is NOT against park policy. If it were then why does the WDW planning video and ALL the Disney videos on the travel channel tell you to do this.

and as said above
CMGUY89 wrote:This happens at EVERY attraction and is not an ejectable offense.
Just because you may not like it, don't mean it's wrong. it is NOT line cutting. And had you been a jerk and tried to have a power trip by making me and my party go to the back of the line we would have gladly exited the line, and go straight to Guest Relations. YOU are the exact example of a power hungry Cm that think they are Disney's CEO. Your job is nothing more then to take tickets and make sure a guest does not trip over a loose pebble in the side walk. Get over it.

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:58 am
by PapaMouse
Princess Susi wrote:WOW! This thread is smokin'!!!!! I believe that the correct way to do queues is if someone has to go potty, then it is fine to come back. Those lines get long. BUT, if you are placeholding for someone just picking up fastpasses or food or a drink, UH-UH! And I am gonna be the first nasty mooded, menopausal woman to stand in front of you and ridicule you into the cement.
And I will tell you to shut up and mind your own business.
YOU will wish you went to the back of the line where you belong!
Sorry, but if my party is in line, then that is where I belong.

Grumpy has got it right. You would see that his solution works for everyone if you read his post. He waits where he is and allows others to pass and then when his DW joins him, he takes up his place in line there. That is what we do as well. That is called courtesy and not selfish and not a me, me, me attitude.
That's retarded. Then when you step back in line your cutting in front of people. If you hold a place then people see that there is a spot you have and your not just jumping into a line.
I am the first screechy voice you are going to hear in your ear if you try to walk past me with a fistful of FP or a drink or a group. It will be much worse than the screechy yell that Big Wallaby heard on his ride from Hell!
NO WAY! IT IS CUTTING, no matter what way you slice it. If you encounter ME in line, PapaMouse, you are NOT going to get by me. PERIOD!
And I am the first fist in the mouth you will get for screaming in my ear. If you would learn to read, you would see that I said ONE person catching up is fine, but 4-5 people is not. and I guarantee you I would get past you if I had to walk over you to do it. people like you don't belong in a Disney park. You are not the Disney mafia, so just shut up and mind your business. next time maybe you will be smart enough to have someone go get your FP while you get in line.
I have been waiting in line, you have not, you have been running around doing OTHER THINGS and waiting in the line gives me first shot at the attraction. Get it now?
MY GROUP HAS BEEN WAITING IN LINE (prob putting up with your annoying little brat kids I'd bet) while I take care of other things for a matter of 2-3 mins. What do you care where I am? The waiting line give you first shot AFTER those in front of you, which includes MY GROUP which (get this) I AM PART OF!!!

Anyway, it is no big deal for you to wait, you are still gonna get in, right? And you won't encounter the Menopausal demon on your way cutting in front of everyone. We have gotten people thrown out of line for this shit. Believe me, you will NOT get past me.
I hope I do meet you in line, someone needs to put you in place and show you that it's not your job to be the Disney b****. Just be a guest. look around at the Disney stuff and not worry about a person trying to catch up to their family. they are not killing you, hurting you. In YOUR OWN WORDS, It's no big deal ifone person catches up in front of you, you still going to get in right?
I am sad because your posts really sound like you feel entitled and better than everyone else.
Not at all. I feel ANYONE and EVERYONE has the right to do this. As long as it is ONE person doing to running/catching up.
What if EVERYONE felt that way? Disney would not be very much fun! That is not what Disney is about. Why would you go with the thinking that *I am going to do it if I want and everyone else can just kiss my ass!" That is not very Disney like and puts you very close to being an SG.
I did not say I was going to do whatever I want. Since this is NOT breaking the rules, then it is fine. And From your comments above, I would look in the mirror to see a SG. I'd say being the Disney Nazi Queen is at the top of that list.


Really think about what you said and see that it might just offend someone. YOU feel that YOU have the right to do ANYTHING YOU wish to get back in line. Not True, Papamouse. Be a little more courteous and have a better time.
NO!!!! I said PEOPLE have the right to catch up to their group. People would have a better time if they did not have to put up with guest like you trying to rule the park. How can YOU enjoy the park when your too busy looking for people to block in lines and scream in their ears. Was that you that Big Wallaby was talking about on the ride at AK?

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:01 am
by PapaMouse
And remember, if you ever encounter a woman who will NOT budge in letting you pass, it might be me. And if you try to pass me and push me out of the way or put your hands on me to get by, I will call assault on you for pushing me to get your way! Oh and I will be smiling the whole time I do.... :) Then, I WILL find a CM who will make sure your group has to join YOU at the back of the line if they still allow you in! They don't like line-cutters!!!
Have a magical day!
And remember if you try blocking someone and they step over you, it's prob me. and when you start to cry and whine and claim all kinds of BS like assault, then I will actually come back and assault you, wouldn't want you to be a lier now would we. Make an honest woman out of you.
Oh, PapaMouse do you honestly think anyone here is going to help you with your registry list for Disney character meals and other Disney *stuff* when you insult them and take the entitled stance? I thought you had *people* on the inside. Can't they help with all the items on your *registry*? If they work for Disney, they should be able to get you all the things you need.
If you had approached us differently, we might WANT to help with your honeymoon, as we did with the Bubble Ladies trip. Different approach gets different response...
I do wish you a wonderful marriage, like I have with my hubby! Congrats on your impending nuptials! :) That is a happy occasion! All the best to you and your bride to be! :)

I could care less if you helped me. I wouldn't want any help from a stuck up snobby bitch like you anyways. And what does it matter what people I have on the inside. we are doing things the right/fun way. See when you do a wedding it's FUN to do a registry.

Don't worry about my approach. that has been in my sig for some time now so don't hand me that BS "if you were nice I would have helped blah blah blah"

God I hope your hubby has nerves of steal t put up with you.


You can now join the other 2 people on my iggy list. Just remember. YOU DO NOT OWN DISNEY. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO BE THE DISNEY MAFIA! BE A GUEST AND EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY!!!

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:03 am
by hobie16
SMOOOCH!!!

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:04 am
by PapaMouse
Syndrome wrote:As far as I can tell, PM lives under a bridge over which billy goats frequently tromp. Such creatures require frequent feeding or they wither and die.

My quote for the day: Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Actually I think it's the other way around. Most people (like you, and PS and the others) live under a bridge thinking that the world is rainbows and lollipops. The world is not black and white. there is a lot of gray. It's is not cutting or not cutting, there is gray (ie: catching up) That is how the worlds works. get used to it.

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:04 am
by Princess Susi
Good idea...Just put me on ignore and you won't be bothered by my posts! If you hit me in the mouth, that would be your last second at a Disney park ever again. You would be in jail for the remainder of your trip. Don't try hitting a woman ....EVER! :mad: Oh and I don't have kids. I am a disabled middleaged woman who LOVES Disney, but HATES SGs like you!
You ever assault me or another woman in a Park., you are not going to be enjoying Disney at all! Go back to the 17th century where you belong. Do you treat your wife to be like a 21st century woman or does she have to kowtow to everything you say? I would tell her to RUN AWAY! It is so laughable that you make a comment about my husband putting up with me. I am the nicest person you could ever meet, unless you are a huge SG like you!

You know, your answer just shows that you should go back to Board X. You fit in there well. You certainly do not belong here. Don't let the SGT door hit you in the ass on the way over there. YOU are the perfect example of an SG!
YOU are now on MY ignore list! Have a magical day! :) I'm out!
sues

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:10 am
by PapaMouse
Princess Susi wrote:Good idea...Just put me on ignore and you won't be bothered by my posts! If you hit me in the mouth, that would be your last second at a Disney park ever again. You would be in jail for the remainder of your trip. Don't try hitting a woman ....EVER! :mad: Oh and I don't have kids. I am a disabled middleaged woman who LOVES Disney, but HATES SGs like you!
You ever assault me or another woman in a Park., you are not going to be enjoying Disney at all! Go back to the 17th cebtury where you belong. It is so laughable that you make a comment about my husband putting up with me. I am the nicest person you could ever meet, unless you are a huge SG like you!

You know, your answer just shows that you should go back to Board X. You fit in there well. You certainly do not belong here. Don't let the SGT door hit you in the ass on the way over there. YOU are the perfect example of an SG!
YOU are now on MY ignore list! Have a magical day! :) I'm out!
sues
You want to get mouthy like a man, then you get treated like a man. No one asked you to open your mouth to anyone in line. If you mind your business then all will be fine. it's when people stick their nose where it don't belong that causes problems.


Imagine this for a chance. Lets say your trying to big a big man blocking someone from catching up to their group. Now that person has and inhailer for someone in said group and you are now blocking them. Wouldn't you feel like crap if the other person died? It's not your place to stop, inspect and judge others in line.

And if you want to see a SG you need to look in the mirror. Just because your disabled don't give you the right to treat people like crap. Just stay in line and do what you want. don't worry about the other people.

As for Board X, your right I do fit in there, they have people that help guest to ENJOY the MOST of the parks. not rude members that think they OWN Disney and try to bully other guest in the parks.

Thank god I am on your ignore list. now I dont have to worry about your nagging bitching anymore. Disney Nazi like you don't deserve to be in the parks.

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:12 am
by Syndrome
PapaMouse wrote:That's retarded.
Wow! You have such a way with words! I must admit that your eloquence has totally won me over to your point of view. Maybe if you try "That's gay" or "Only spazzes are against line jumping" next, you'll win the others over too. Since your sensitive, cohesive arguments have won me over, I'm putting you on ignore because your powers of persuasion are so great that if I read any more of your posts, I might fall down at your feet and start worshipping your great all-knowingness. Thanks ever so much for opening my eyes.

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:13 am
by CMGUY89
So no one is going to listen to what I said?

Be civil!!!
The point of this board is to escape the uncivilness we find in the park.
There is no reason for ANYONE to be talking this nasty to each other! It makes us ALL sound like SGs.
Please, everyone be nice. If you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all.
(OMG, I have finally turned into my Mother) ;)
[/voice of reason]
Perhaps its time for this thread to be closed???

Re: I dont care if your a AP holder...

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:15 am
by Princess Susi
Syndrome wrote:Wow! You have such a way with words! I must admit that your eloquence has totally won me over to your point of view. Maybe if you try "That's gay" or "Only spazzes are against line jumping" next, you'll win the others over too. Since your sensitive, cohesive arguments have won me over, I'm putting you on ignore because your powers of persuasion are so great that if I read any more of your posts, I might fall down at your feet and start worshipping your great all-knowingness. Thanks ever so much for opening my eyes.
:hysteria: That IS funny Syndrome! Pretty soon he is going to have EVERYONE here on ignore, he won't have anyone to post with....

Just go back to Board X, PM! They will welcome someone with an attitude like yours with open arms!

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

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