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Post by Whazzup » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:53 pm

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:Looked into it, and if we booked the "southern route" or any portion, the fine print says that cetrain "portions" are by bus, as the track is out and no date of repair is even being discussed. Called amtrack and they confirmed that if we wanted a "train" ride, we had to go the route through Chicago. Guess they never repaired the track after Katrina! (Darn!!)

The lady at Amtrac said basically that it would be by bus from Texas to Flordia!
I think it was actually Ivan who destroyed some of the track that has never been reopened. There used to be an Amtrak station here and the lease on the building is about to expire and we are afraid they won't renew it since the track hasn't been repaired. What a shame that they can't reopen that southern route. I htink it was an eastward extension of the Crescent route, but am not sure.
There was also that terrible accident several years ago where a barge or tugboat or something hit a railroad bridge and knocked it out of whack and the Amtrak train crashed into the water and hundreds of people were killed and drowned. I don't think that portion was ever reopened but I may be wrong.



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Post by Whazzup » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:21 pm

susislicker wrote: What about Disney Cruises? Is there enough space to have quiet time without children underfoot ALLthe time. I like to watch the little one's faces light up when they see a new thing or character, but not all the time. I know there is an adult pool, because I read a thread on another board where the poster was ANGRY that her little darling got kicked out of the adult pool and was told to go to the children's pool. What is the age limit? Do tweens and teens hang out at the adult pool on board? And I know there are adult eating places only, like Palo. So that is good. I want to take a cruise and am not sure a Disney Cruise would be right for us. We love Disney though and want the magic of that, but want the peace of a quiet cruise, sitting on a deck chair reading and napping, eating wonferful fruits and vegetables at meals and quiet moonlit walks! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....romance! But I would also like to see Mickey and Minnie and the gang and have fun with on board pin trading, sooooooo what do you suggest?
SuziDoozy, if you are interested in cruising, you MUST take a Disney cruise!! My DH and I are not big gamblers, and we're not big drinkers, and we love Disney, so I checked into the Disney Cruise Line (DCL). We are past middle aged with no kids and we now LOVE Disney cruising!

Our first cruise was January 2007, a 4-day Bahama cruise on the Wonder. We were able to get one of the secret porthole rooms (outside stateroom with partially blocked porthole view, for the price of an inside stateroom). There are only 6 on the whole ship. Anyway, those rooms are on Deck 5, where many of the kids' activities take place, and it was actually very quiet and not at all crowded, in fact we rarely saw children in our area. They have their own facilities where they can spend hours being entertained by CMs so the parents can have plenty of free time. Some parents have a hard time getting their kids to come OUT of the kids' areas, they are having such great fun. They also have areas just for teens, too.

In the evenings they have character meet and greets in the ship's lobby and there are always lots of children present for that, but we like to hang over the balcony and take pictures of the characters so we always stop by to see who's there.

For our evening restaurant meals, we were assigned to a table with 2 couples with a single child each, and another couple. If you should wind up with too many kids at your table for your tolerance level (or if they are brats), you can request a different table assignment. You can also request an adults only table when you make your reservation.

Our second cruise was 6-9 December 2007 and it was just as wonderful. We've eaten at Palo, the adults only restaurant, enjoyed the adults only pool (age 18 and above, and if a youngster is there being a pest, a word to a CM will rectify that problem), taken a behind-the-scenes tour of the ship, visited the spa (I think it's adults only, too), played bingo, sung karaoke, played Disney trivia, visited the adults only lounges and clubs, watched stage shows and Disney movies in the theater and on the giant outdoor movie screen, and generally had a wonderful time. You would love Deck 4, where the comfy lounge chairs are lined up for napping, reading, or just enjoying the sunset or ocean breezes. We rarely saw kids there.

You can send for a free DCL video from Disney, and they will also mention the adults only entertainment, even though the video seems more geared toward kids. Disney's private island, Castaway Cay, even has an adult beach (Serenity Bay) that is peaceful and kid-free. Talk about Shangri-La, aaaahhhhhh.

As you can tell, we are sold on Disney cruising. Because cruising is not as physically stressful as visiting the parks, you don't have the kiddy melt-downs or screaming/crying kids like you might encounter at WDW, but you still have all the Disney magic.

I could go on and on, like you do about trains, but if you want more info PM me. Speaking of trains, I love trains, too. When we have a north wind we can hear the whistle as the train passes through town. Such a lonely but romantic sound, isn't it?

My brother and I hopped an Amtrak from Vancouver, Washington, out to The Dalles in the Columbia River Gorge and back for a day trip, which was fun. Some day, when we're not surrounded by critters to take care of, we'd like to do some train traveling and see some more of our big beautiful country.



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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:46 pm

Whazzup wrote:I think it was actually Ivan who destroyed some of the track that has never been reopened. There used to be an Amtrak station here and the lease on the building is about to expire and we are afraid they won't renew it since the track hasn't been repaired. What a shame that they can't reopen that southern route. I htink it was an eastward extension of the Crescent route, but am not sure.
There was also that terrible accident several years ago where a barge or tugboat or something hit a railroad bridge and knocked it out of whack and the Amtrak train crashed into the water and hundreds of people were killed and drowned. I don't think that portion was ever reopened but I may be wrong.
Oh! Didn't know it was that bad. The info lady was nice but just gave me the "that will not be open anytime soon" spiel, but if I wanted to go by bus, I would book it that way!! We are still considering the trip(through to chicago), but now seperately from any WDW vacation, just to ride the train!!


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Post by Whazzup » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:56 pm

When we were kids, my Dad used to take me and my sister to the freight yards and bum a ride on the switch engines working the yards. That was back in the days where you could do stuff like that and not worry about the legal angle of "If my kid stubs her toe on your train - I'll sue your *@!* off."

Anyway, one time Dad woke us up at 4am and hauled us downtown in the ol' Chevy to watch the circus train come into town. We got to watch them unload the elephants so they could be put to work setting up the big tents for the circus. Another time we watched tons of bananas being unloaded from freight cars. A few fell out of the car and I ran to pick up a banana and one of the workers warned me to look out for tarantulas! :eek: Since then I always check my bananas for spiders. :D:

Dad also used to take us down to the Columbia River on Saturday afternoons where he would start chatting with local boat owners and he frequently wangled us a boat ride. He just didn't know any strangers. Wish people were that trusting nowadays.

I had a great childhood. :) I miss my Dad. :(



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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:02 pm

Whazzup wrote:When we were kids, my Dad used to take me and my sister to the freight yards and bum a ride on the switch engines working the yards. That was back in the days where you could do stuff like that and not worry about the legal angle of "If my kid stubs her toe on your train - I'll sue your *@!* off."

Anyway, one time Dad woke us up at 4am and hauled us downtown in the ol' Chevy to watch the circus train come into town. We got to watch them unload the elephants so they could be put to work setting up the big tents for the circus. Another time we watched tons of bananas being unloaded from freight cars. A few fell out of the car and I ran to pick up a banana and one of the workers warned me to look out for tarantulas! :eek: Since then I always check my bananas for spiders. :D:

Dad also used to take us down to the Columbia River on Saturday afternoons where he would start chatting with local boat owners and he frequently wangled us a boat ride. He just didn't know any strangers. Wish people were that trusting nowadays.

I had a great childhood. :) I miss my Dad. :(
That sounds neat! I remember the circus parade! I grew up in a very small town in the midwest and we went to a town that was on the rail line, and they had unloaded and had a parade to the fairgrounds just outside of town. Reminded me of the "Toby Tyler" movie!

Sounds like your dad was a good conversationalist!! A BOAT ride..too Cool. (since I grew up over 1000 miles from the ocean, that would have seemed amazing back then!)


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Post by hobie16 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:11 pm

Whazzup wrote:Another time we watched tons of bananas being unloaded from freight cars. A few fell out of the car and I ran to pick up a banana and one of the workers warned me to look out for tarantulas! :eek: Since then I always check my bananas for spiders.
We get geckos and centipedes in ours when we cut down a bunch. The geckos get placed back in the other banana trees; the centipedes get RAID!!!


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Post by Whazzup » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:16 pm

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:That sounds neat! I remember the circus parade! I grew up in a very small town in the midwest and we went to a town that was on the rail line, and they had unloaded and had a parade to the fairgrounds just outside of town. Reminded me of the "Toby Tyler" movie!

Sounds like your dad was a good conversationalist!! A BOAT ride..too Cool. (since I grew up over 1000 miles from the ocean, that would have seemed amazing back then!)
Kevin Corcoran - Corky! He was too cute.

Didn't you have any rivers around where you lived, Grumpy?



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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:20 pm

Whazzup wrote:Kevin Corcoran - Corky! He was too cute.

Didn't you have any rivers around where you lived, Grumpy?
Nope, just a creek! We used to skate on it in winter, but it was never smooth for more than a few feet. Didn't really see any large body of water, until I joined the Navy. First time I saw the Ocean was amazing. then a while later, the first time you stand on deck and not see land was another experience altogether! Don't even want to talk about the first typhoon at sea!!

(met a guy named Ralllph!!)


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Post by Zazu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:51 pm

StephM wrote:Hmmm...looks like I will have to start my DL planning with Amtrak. ;)
Let me know if you have any questions. For that matter, let me know if you don't and I'll offer some. I've traveled Amtrak extensively and can tell you about stations, routes, and on-board facilities.


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Post by Zazu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:56 pm

Shorty82 wrote:Looking at the route map this is a LOT shorter way to go.

If you go this way also wave as you go through Pensacola, that's where Whazzup and I are at.
Nope, not presently possible.

The Sunset Limited route, which pre-Katrina extended all the way to Orlando, now runs only Los Angeles to New Orleans. Yeah, I'm party to the lawsuit trying to force them to put it back, but it doesn't look good.

You could take the Sunset LA to NO, then the City of New Orleans NO to Chicago, then on thru DC to Florida, but it's much faster to take the Chief which runs directly from LA to Chicago.


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