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Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:41 pm
by CMGUY89
Yeah Signal 25s at The Land really suck...especially when Soarin' gets evaced. People aren't that understanding...especially after they give away their fastpasses and are about to get on the attraction. The Signal 25's are usually caused by the Land's fire detection system, which consists of thermal cameras. The cameras tend to get confused by the heat lamps in the desert scene. The cameras also can detect the shapes of flames and are fooled by the grass fire in the American Prairie. Something tells me that they should have a better system than that, I had two in the span of a month!!!
"Why were we evacuated?"
"We are currently experiencing minor technical difficulties..."
"BULLSHIT!!! The fire alarm is going off!"
"Yes ma'am and we are currently investigating the cause but for everyone's safety we evacuated the building."
"You have ruined my trip!"
PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!
Of course this is the Land response...
"Is everything ok???"
"Well for the time being we are going to ask you to leave the building through those exits over there..."
"What about you sweetie, you should leave too!"
"I appreciate your concern ma'am but I have to ensure everyone is off the attraction before I can leave."
"Well don't put yourself in danger! I am worried about you!"
"Ma'am I assure you everything will be fine."
I found her later and gave her fastpasses. I love concerned guests!!! LOL!
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:18 pm
by Randy B
mechurchlady wrote:I would be the SG standing there say "She ate at the Land and died"
"OMG Junior you see what happens when you eat the plants here, Junior, omg, tell me you did not eat the plants"
Or better yet, "See, that's what you get when you eat healthy food".
Randy (who is about to take a "lunch" break at work to go cook a good meal of Mac N Cheese (family size). :D:
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:59 pm
by felinefan
Such a shame about that guy. They went there expecting to have a nice vacation and they end up having to plan a funeral. Not what they intended by a vacation they won't forget. Cardiomyopathy would've gotten him even if he was sitting on a bench watching people go by. CPR and all would not have brought him back, even if he had a paramedic sitting next to him with a portable defibrillator.
There used to be a Cornish Rex cat named Ricky, who played a toy piano by himself, and was owned by an East Coast radio personality. Ricky had cardiomyopathy, and one day he looked up at his owner, meowed and fell over, and he was gone. A heart transplant is best performed as soon as possible after diagnosis hopefully when it's at an early stage. But Ricky didn't have that option. Right now, about the only organ transplants they're doing on cats are kidneys, and you have to adopt the donor cat.
OTOH, doing CPR even if you know or suspect that the person is gone or on their way out keeps the aforementioned critics from slandering you, Disney, etc.. When people get caught up in something like that, the rumor mill gets started, and the next thing you know, you hear that "they didn't do anything for that poor man, and he died as a result." And it's very hard to convince people otherwise. They just don't listen to the facts. :mad:
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:52 am
by GRUMPY PIRATE
Interesting that you talk about kitties. One of the rescue kitties that DW and I adopted was a Scottish foldback, and he was playing on the floor with kitty toys, then a few minutes later, DW notices that he is laying there, not moving at all. He died that quick, he was not quite two. Vet said it was massive heart attack.
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:58 am
by felinefan
I don't know enough about the health of Scottish Folds, but yes if a cat has a thrombus (bloodclot), age doesn't matter. I think Ricky was about 5 years old or so. Some conditions can and have been bred out of the lines of certain purebreds, but if you have a mixed breed or even if the breeder says their lines are free of such and such a condition, they could end up being a "throwback". Check out
http://www.catchannel.com , they have great forums and resources for cat owners. If you're more into dogs, they have
http://www.dogchannel.com, too.
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:15 am
by bpgstudios
The old small world signal 25 system (when we came back up from the refurb) was based on light flashes. It was hooked up to our camera system, and looked for essentially changes in lighting supposedly (like fire). Every time someone took a flash picture it set off the signal 25 alarm.
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:26 am
by CMGUY89
bpgstudios wrote:The old small world signal 25 system (when we came back up from the refurb) was based on light flashes. It was hooked up to our camera system, and looked for essentially changes in lighting supposedly (like fire). Every time someone took a flash picture it set off the signal 25 alarm.
LOL, that's really bad. Maybe that's why we have to insist on no flash photography all the time! LOL!
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:33 am
by GRUMPY PIRATE
bpgstudios wrote:The old small world signal 25 system (when we came back up from the refurb) was based on light flashes. It was hooked up to our camera system, and looked for essentially changes in lighting supposedly (like fire). Every time someone took a flash picture it set off the signal 25 alarm.
Maybe they should have that system, and set it up so when an SG does do a flash, it immediately stops and announces that a flash has gone off, and could possible mean a fire..so everyone has to evac!!
wouldn't take too many times before some guests correct the SG!!!
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:52 am
by Randy B
bpgstudios wrote:The old small world signal 25 system (when we came back up from the refurb) was based on light flashes. It was hooked up to our camera system, and looked for essentially changes in lighting supposedly (like fire). Every time someone took a flash picture it set off the signal 25 alarm.
And to make it more stupid, SW is so well lit since the refurb that flash isn't needed. In Oct I rode through with my camera set to no flash and took plenty of photos and never had a problem. Of course it requires the photog to actually know how to use their camera and how to turn the flash off (in many it is called museum mode) and how to choose an appropriate "film speed". Of course the number of SGs who are taking pictures without any clue is rather high at WDW. How many times have we seen someone taking flash photos of a projected image (the flash wipes out the projection and all you get is a blank screen), or using a flash at a sporting venue from a distance of 1000' or more (a standard flash is most effective from 6'-12', or
30' at most). And it's fun to watch people that try to shoot through a window with a flash head on with the window, and then can't understand why the camera can't see through the window (the same photo taken at a
45 deg angle to the window or without a flash will work just fine).
Randy
Re: Guest dies on Expedition Everest
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:53 am
by Randy B
GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:Maybe they should have that system, and set it up so when an SG does do a flash, it immediately stops and announces that a flash has gone off, and could possible mean a fire..so everyone has to evac!!
wouldn't take too many times before some guests correct the SG!!!
You want to go in with me on the "plank" concession? :D:
Randy