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Re: Do you care?

Post by Ms. Matterhorn » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:46 am

hobie16 wrote:My wife put out some huge strawberries dipped in chocolate about an hour ago. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!
Hmm.. Hobie lives in Hawaii and is eating chocolate covered strawberries...I think I'll go hang myself right now... :choke:


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Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:08 pm

All might not be so well there....

I read a story about the native Hawaiians taking over a tourst facility and holding court. It seems that they are going to confiscate all private holdings of forigners and re-distribute to the native born.

Hmmmmm,

and are trying to get the same status as the native Americans on the mainland, then claim the whole of Hawaii as tribal lands...

wonder when the casinos will start to be built?

Sounds like they are trying to susceed!


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Re: Do you care?

Post by Princess Susi » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:24 pm

Euterpe wrote:I usually don't participate in off-topic chatter, but yesterday I had my wisdom teeth pulled, so now I'm craving pudding and I can't have it, and I don't even like pudding! And pie... and anything from a French Bakery...

Ever notice that food commercials are much more effective when you can't eat them. I want hot dog and pizza and burgers and chip... But I can barely eat ice cream...

Okay, promise to be on topic from now on.
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Re: Do you care?

Post by Princess Susi » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:26 pm

Zazu wrote:Look again, we have one now: :eatpopcn:

Got one of those, too: :zazu:

LOVE it!!!!That IS the popcorn one! Thank you oh mighty one!!!! You must forgive me, I forgot Zazu IS the Grand Poobah!!!! We don't need no other steenkin Poobah smiley when we got that one! I bow to your mightiness! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: and beg your forgiveness, oh great one! :beg:

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Re: Do you care?

Post by Princess Susi » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:29 pm

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:All might not be so well there....

I read a story about the native Hawaiians taking over a tourst facility and holding court. It seems that they are going to confiscate all private holdings of forigners and re-distribute to the native born.

Hmmmmm,

and are trying to get the same status as the native Americans on the mainland, then claim the whole of Hawaii as tribal lands...

wonder when the casinos will start to be built?

Sounds like they are trying to susceed!
Would that be trying to secede and then succeed at being a sovereign nation? ;)


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Re: Do you care?

Post by hobie16 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:09 pm

Ms. Matterhorn wrote:Hmm.. Hobie lives in Hawaii and is eating chocolate covered strawberries...I think I'll go hang myself right now... :choke:
On the downside regular gas is now $4.53 a gallon.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by hobie16 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:29 pm

GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:All might not be so well there....

I read a story about the native Hawaiians taking over a tourst facility and holding court. It seems that they are going to confiscate all private holdings of forigners and re-distribute to the native born.

Hmmmmm,

and are trying to get the same status as the native Americans on the mainland, then claim the whole of Hawaii as tribal lands...

wonder when the casinos will start to be built?

Sounds like they are trying to susceed!
That would be one of the sovereignty whack job groups. This particular one chained the gates and put up no trespassing signs at the Iolani Palace. Rather then create the big news event they were looking for, the cops kept it very low key and eventually evicted them from the grounds with little fanfare.

A number of these groups exist. They say they want sovereignty but it's all about money so they can sit on their okoles. The group that chained the gates has also sued the state and feds for a trillion dollars. Good luck.

The tribal deal is interesting too. They demanded to be recognized as a racial group and almost made it until the US Supreme Court said the US will never be about race (something called the Constitution helped them out) and threw them out of court. The poor racists wanted a do over because they then decided they were an Indian tribe. This may happen if the Akaka bill in the Senate ever passes.

Regardless of what, if anything happens, we won't see any casinos. The feds have made it VERY clear that nothing will happen if there's even a slight chance of casinos being built.

If you want to read more, go to http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/hawaiiansovereignty/ . It's done by a retired UH prof and has a lot of info.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by smart1hermione » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:15 pm

hobie16 wrote:On the downside regular gas is now $4.53 a gallon.
Lucky! It's 4.59 here.

I get my car today! How bittersweet.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by hobie16 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:26 pm

smart1hermione wrote:Lucky! It's 4.59 here.

I get my car today! How bittersweet.
Lanai hit $5.00 last week.


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Re: Do you care?

Post by felinefan » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:21 pm

I once read a book about the history of Catalina Island, and one time back in the 60s or 70s a group of Mexicans decided the treaty giving Catalina to the U.S./CA wasn't "legal", so they took over Mount Ada and held their little protest and demanded that Catalina be returned to Mexico. But there were only a few activists, and the cops went up and made them pack their stuff and vamoose. As far as I know, the Native American population of the island hasn't pulled anything like that.


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