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Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:49 pm
by Shorty82
I don't know that area. I didn't even know where on property Pop is at until just now when I looked at a WDW map.

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:07 pm
by mechurchlady
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... loc=A&om=1

There was planned a Pop Century pair of resorts around a body of water that would be twins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSc1fG0ETeY
Legendary Years Resort 1900-1940

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:00 am
by vixen101485
I dont want them over there. Do you realize how much that chanting is gonna carry over Hourglass lake? I like POP the way it is in the sections we choose. Nice and quiet. Make them all stay in the Carousel of Progress, maybe it will lull them into a stupor since it is a good place for a nap. LOL

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:34 am
by Shorty82
mechurchlady wrote:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... loc=A&om=1

There was planned a Pop Century pair of resorts around a body of water that would be twins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSc1fG0ETeY
Legendary Years Resort 1900-1940
I knew that there was some abandoned contruction sites at Pop but I didn't know the sites were so extensive. Seems like quite a waste to me. I know WDW can afford the waste but I still don't like it. I'm the type who'd rather empty, abandoned, and unused places be used for something. I don't like the empty SkyBucket stations in the MK, I don't like River Country abandoned and rotting away, and now the Pop sites are on that list too. I'm glad they finally did something with the old 20,000 Leagues Lagoon but IMO they could have come up with something better than a small playground, especially after 10 years of being unused. Do something with those places, just don't abandon them.

I'll have to check out the YouTube video sometime, this computer doesn't get along with YouTube. Actually, there's a few YouTube links scattered around this site I want to check out.
vixen101485 wrote:I dont want them over there. Do you realize how much that chanting is gonna carry over Hourglass lake? I like POP the way it is in the sections we choose. Nice and quiet. Make them all stay in the Carousel of Progress, maybe it will lull them into a stupor since it is a good place for a nap. LOL
I understand not wanting the Brazilians at Pop but the idea is to try to teach them to be civilized while also keeping them out of our way. I enjoy CoP and don't want it ruined by cramming it full of chanting, yelling Brazilians.

It's a great big beautiful tomorrow, shining at the end of every day!

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:12 am
by DevilDuckie
Cranbiz wrote:While I think that this is a great suggestion,

I'm thinking that PITA will have a cow over this after all, there is wildlife on Discovery Island.

God knows that Disney will want to avoid conterversey.
It has always amused me that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is pronounced "pita" and that PITA stands for Pain In The Ass.

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:43 am
by leftcoaster
DevilDuckie wrote:It has always amused me that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is pronounced "pita" and that PITA stands for Pain In The Ass.
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals.

there is also PMITA.

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:44 am
by strlnblue
In all the Disney message boards I've visited, all the CMs insist that the Brazzies are the ABSOLUTE worst. There is NOBODY worse than them, period! A guest who was Brazilian blames his culture for it. He said that competitiveness in society is something they learn very early in life. The families that raise them must take a huge amount of the blame too. He added that Brazilian teens have been raised with the "You MUST beat this or that person" mentality. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true (I have no way to prove this except go to Brazil). Maybe that's why their society has such a massive economic gap. There is no middle class. You're either extremely rich (I don't know if $250,000 is considered a decent or gigantic amount of money in their country) or very poor. Sadly, some South American countries are like that. I have a friend from Ecuador who lives in a neighborhood surrounded by a brick wall to keep the "have nots" out! One side looks like Ethiopia (no offense intended to Ethiopians by the way) and the other side looks like Beverly Hills! Unbelievable. :eek:

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:27 am
by Cranbiz
Shorty82 wrote:I knew that there was some abandoned contruction sites at Pop but I didn't know the sites were so extensive. Seems like quite a waste to me. I know WDW can afford the waste but I still don't like it. I'm the type who'd rather empty, abandoned, and unused places be used for something. I don't like the empty SkyBucket stations in the MK, I don't like River Country abandoned and rotting away, and now the Pop sites are on that list too. I'm glad they finally did something with the old 20,000 Leagues Lagoon but IMO they could have come up with something better than a small playground, especially after 10 years of being unused. Do something with those places, just don't abandon them.
There are several versions on why the legandary years were stopped and not completed.

The "Official" version is that after 9/11 the downswing in tourism killed the project as completed rooms were not filling, why complete more rooms. Now the buildings were too badly damaged by the hurricanes a couple of years ago to finish them and will need to be demolished and restarted. This option is too expensive so they sit, unfinished and empty.

Next version. They will be finished by 2010 as soon as they figure out whether to do them as family suites or low end DVC units. A lot of discussion has been going on about this.

Last version. Osceola County stopped construction. They were started without a building permit. The next time that Osceola County has a pet progect to fund, Disney will pony up a couple of million dollars to the project, Osceola County will issue a building permit and an occupancy permit and the site will be finished.

My guess is the truth is in a combination of the three versions.

River Country will never reopen. The FL law about the fresh water swimming ban due to that ameboa that lives on the bottom killed River Country.

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:43 am
by Shorty82
Cranbiz wrote:There are several versions on why the legandary years were stopped and not completed.

The "Official" version is that after 9/11 the downswing in tourism killed the project as completed rooms were not filling, why complete more rooms.
That is the version I've always heard. The others wouldn't surprise me to much though.
River Country will never reopen. The FL law about the fresh water swimming ban due to that ameboa that lives on the bottom killed River Country.
I know that River Country will never reopen but the land is already developed and could be used for something. At least the nasty pools should be filled in, you know they must breed mosquitos like crazy.

Re: The Brazilians are like cows...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:05 pm
by leftcoaster
strlnblue wrote:In all the Disney message boards I've visited, all the CMs insist that the Brazzies are the ABSOLUTE worst. There is NOBODY worse than them, period!
Yea, but what about smoking, wheel-chair/ECV using, cheer leader, line cutting, Brazilian SG's ?