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Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:56 pm
by ktulu
Mr. M wrote:So by your logic. Just becasue it flies, then it's all the same. So a Balloon pilot has the same skill to fly a 747. And anyone that can fly a kite can jump into a F117A Jet and fly for the air force.
No, but the pilots I know can fly any plane, they may not be familiar with the location of all the controls and switches, but they can control the aircraft in a safe manner. I've been in the sim with a friend of mine while he trained FO's, and the guy manning the Captain's seat was not checked out, nor very familiar with the cockpit. He could still fly it just fine.
Then I got to take the FO seat for a bit, took off, flew around, and landed it. A bit bumpy, but as they all told me "Good enough to save the lives of a couple hundred people."
I am just going by what Disney called the balloon. "Ear-force One"
Ya know, hindsight is 20/20, but perhaps you should have brought up this bit of detail in your original post. Just sayin'...
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:20 pm
by hobie16
Mr. M wrote:But never mind. It appears that people here are in their "moods" today so I will go find the answer somewhere else.
I'm in the mood for love
Simply because you're near...
Oh, wait a minute. Never mind.
Mr. M wrote:So by your logic. Just becasue it flies, then it's all the same. So a Balloon pilot has the same skill to fly a 747. And anyone that can fly a kite can jump into a F117A Jet and fly for the air force.
You'll find that many pilots maintain ratings in a number of different types of aircraft. A lot of National Air Guard pilots that fly front line combat aircraft have a day job as commercial airline pilots.
The basics for flying the Goodyear blimp are the same used to fly a 747. The difference between the two are speed, altitude attained, and instrumentation.
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:29 pm
by Lasolimu
texasmouse wrote:A balloon pilot must have a pilots license and if they are carrying passengers they must have a commercial pilots license. I know several ballooners who do fly 747's for a living and then have their balloon for fun.
Hello texasmouse, I am the resident dragon and would like to offer you a very warm* welcome to that slice of the internet we call SGT. This website contains threads with quick twists and turns and I would like to advise you to not try to hard to keep up with them. Please keep your hands, arms, and legs safely inside the website at all times and enjoy your stay.
*this instance of warm is actually hot**... very hot
**this instance of hot means that you are now literally on fire, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for any inconvenience
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:53 pm
by Mr. M
Lasolimu wrote:I think you may need to reread what he said, he said "if it 'flys' the FAA has jurisdiction" not that anything that flies is the same, they just fall under the same jurisdiction and regulations.
And you need to re read, he said that in response to my comment "Um... I don't think an airplane is the same as a hot air balloon."
darph nader wrote:OKAY,I'll give a very good example. 3 years ago the place I worked at,wanted to fly/float a 'tethered' balloon/blimp for a tent sail we were having. As they were walking out of the warehouse with this thing,I asked if they checked with the FAA and/or the Air Force base. (the store is in the flight path) This balloon is no bigger than my Suburban btw. After a few phone calls,we got permission,AS LONG AS,it was no higher than the building and had to down before sunset. If not a MAJOR fine would be imposed.
And none of that has anything to do with the question originally asked.
texasmouse wrote:
A balloon pilot must have a pilots license and if they are carrying passengers they must have a commercial pilots license. I know several ballooners who do fly 747's for a living and then have their balloon for fun.
but a Balloon Pilot license is different then a plane pilot license.
ktulu wrote:Ya know, hindsight is 20/20, but perhaps you should have brought up this bit of detail in your original post. Just sayin'...
Sorry I assumed a board full of Disney freaks (not a bad term) would know what ear-force one was. My mistake to think Disney people would know anything about Disney history. Lesson learned. Just sayin'...
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:01 pm
by Main Streeter
hobie16 wrote:I'm in the mood for love
Simply because you're near...
:hysteria: :hysteria:

Best yet! I LOVE YOU hobie. ;)
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:58 pm
by hobie16
Mr. M wrote:Sorry I assumed a board full of Disney freaks...
Only on Friday.
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:02 pm
by Lasolimu
Mr. M wrote:And you need to re read, he said that in response to my comment "Um... I don't think an airplane is the same as a hot air balloon."
That's precisely my point, he never said they were the same thing, just that they both fall under the same regulations. And your post was towards hobie who was attempting to be philosophical and also didn't say a balloon was the same as an airplane. This was in response to you saying that the answer given was for the wrong thing, which was a response to me saying an answer was given. After it was determined that you were talking about the balloon, the person who answered hadn't confirmed at that point that they were mistaken, and there was no reason to believe they were also mistaken about what you meant and therefore no reason to believe the answer given to be incorrect.
In fact, looking back at the thread, no one ever said they were the same thing so I don't know where you got that idea in the first place.
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:02 pm
by DisneyMom
Main Streeter wrote: :hysteria: :hysteria:

Best yet! I LOVE YOU hobie. ;)
We can only worship him from afar*sigh* ;)
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:03 pm
by kurtisnelson
A turd by any other name is still a turd? Am I thinking what you are thinking?
Re: Ear-Force One
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:13 pm
by CBeilby
Ktulu and I have been thinking it for some time now.