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Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:20 pm
by ktulu
kurtisnelson wrote:Tread carefully or you might get put in a padded cell for a week again.
It'd be worth it, again :)

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 3:25 am
by CptnSkippy
Honda Enoch wrote: The play ground is being MOVED to another location. Pooh is going to have a rather LARGE plot in the new expansion.
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Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:10 am
by Main Streeter
ktulu wrote:it'd be worth it, again :)
rofl. ;)

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:50 am
by Honda Enoch
CptnSkippy wrote:Image
1) this is not Wikipedia.

2)
Honda Enoch wrote:See the disney parks blog they posted a video about it last week.

In this video they talk about moving the pooh tree to the center of the larger Pooh area.
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2 ... -recap-30/

Not to mention this blue print of the expansion.
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Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:20 pm
by darph nader
Honda Enoch wrote:

In this video they talk about moving the pooh tree to the center of the larger Pooh area.
That just sounds soooo wrong. :rolleyes:

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:49 pm
by Disneyguy85
I sense another "Duck season, Rabbit season" fate for this thread...

By the way, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but since this was touched upon recently, I must go back to a previous discussion and make a point;

In the following link, it states that Walt Disney initially did not want to built a magic kindgom park in Florida, his big idea for the Florida project was EPCOT.

http://sites.google.com/site/theorigina ... da-project


"Walt Disney was not able to obtain funding and permission to start work on his Florida property until he agreed to build the Magic Kingdom first."

"Walt never wanted to make a "sequel" to Disneyland, always stating that there will always be one Disneyland. When Walt presented his ideas to the Board of Directors, they were skeptical. They wanted assurance that people would come to visit this "Disney World". What they wanted was a surefire hit: a Disneyland-style park.
Walt initially objected, but eventually relented, and he used the park to his advantage. He put the theme park in the northmost corner of the Florida property. Disney wanted everyone to experience the rest."


Thank you, you may resume your previous argument. ;)

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:57 pm
by hobie16
Disneyguy85 wrote:When Walt presented his ideas to the Board of Directors, they were skeptical. They wanted assurance that people would come to visit this "Disney World". What they wanted was a surefire hit: a Disneyland-style park.
And there we have the downside of going public. The visionary vs. The Board. :eek:

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:45 pm
by Honda Enoch
Disneyguy85 wrote:I sense another "Duck season, Rabbit season" fate for this thread...
How so? The facts were just posted. End of discussion.

Disneyguy85 wrote:By the way, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but since this was touched upon recently, I must go back to a previous discussion and make a point;

In the following link, it states that Walt Disney initially did not want to built a magic kindgom park in Florida, his big idea for the Florida project was EPCOT.

http://sites.google.com/site/theorigina ... da-project


"Walt Disney was not able to obtain funding and permission to start work on his Florida property until he agreed to build the Magic Kingdom first."

"Walt never wanted to make a "sequel" to Disneyland, always stating that there will always be one Disneyland. When Walt presented his ideas to the Board of Directors, they were skeptical. They wanted assurance that people would come to visit this "Disney World". What they wanted was a surefire hit: a Disneyland-style park.
Walt initially objected, but eventually relented, and he used the park to his advantage. He put the theme park in the northmost corner of the Florida property. Disney wanted everyone to experience the rest."


Thank you, you may resume your previous argument. ;)
Sorry but that's incorrect. Walt had started plans for a Disney park in FL ever since he saw the mistakes made with DL. Check the videos of him talking about the Florida Project. He shows the area for the park, then goes into "And by far the biggest plans for the Florida Project is.... E.P.C.O.T."

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:57 pm
by Disneyguy85
hobie16 wrote:And there we have the downside of going public. The visionary vs. The Board.
That sounds like a case I'd love to see on Judge Judy or The People's Court! :D:

Re: Another one bites the dust

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:34 pm
by hobie16
Disneyguy85 wrote:That sounds like a case I'd love to see on Judge Judy or The People's Court! :D:
It's really more the case of a visionary (Walt) coming up with an idea but not having the capital to make it real. There are two sources, loan(s) or equity (stock). Loans can be paid off but equity seemingly lasts forever.

With equity you also need someone to represent the stockholders. That would be the board. The board will usually do a good job of representing the stockholders because they get paid in stock thus becoming representatives of their own interests.

In the case of building WDW, Walt had a vision (EPCOT) but the board wanted a proven concept (MK). Both eventually got what they wanted. More or less.