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I don't understand saying "Disney is for kids" as an excuse for kids to behave rudely. Yes, it's for kids, and for adults, and for everyone who has paid to be in the park. And they all - ALL - need to be considerate and follow the rules.
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Thanks again, everyone! I think everyone understands that someone of special needs may have to do something different when it comes to waiting in queues or that someone may have to leave and com back because of a bathroom break (or some other emergency). But other than the special circumstances, line cutting is line cutting. I hadn't thought of CMs having to gauge wait times for the lines.
About how nothing he did was for kids (only): "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
And
"Why do we have to grow up? I know more adults who have the children's approach to life. They're people who don't give a hang what the Joneses do. You see them at Disneyland every time you go there. They are not afraid to be delighted with simple pleasures, and they have a degree of contentment with what life has brought - sometimes it isn't much, either."
And: "To all who come to this happy place – welcome!"
That quote is on every dedication plaque for every Disney park resort.
And to add to it, his brother's words:
"May Walt Disney World bring Joy and Inspiration and New Knowledge to all who come to this happy place ... where the young at heart of all ages can laugh and play and learn - together."
And at DCA:
"To all who believe in the power of dreams... "
And from Art Linkletter, Walt's closest friend:
"And we spent part of the day, sliding down the pole in the firehouse. Walt was leading and he'd slide down there, roll up the stairs and slide down again."
If we do take them to a park to be in the kennel (because we plan to be there all day), we keep them to the side of paths so as not to bother people. In Disney Hollywood Studios, where they have to be on the tram (the kennel parking was taken away at one point), we wait for an empty one and sit in the last row. We first ask the CM who is back there if dogs will bother him or her. We figure this way, if someone is bothered by dogs, they have the entire tram to sit away from us. In Animal Kingdom where the kennel is inside the gates, we again ask the security people if dogs bother them and stay to the side. We will get photos with them at the gate, but ask the Photopass people first if it bothers them. We have friends who do the same; in fact, characters said they wanted to be in the photos with the dogs, and we've never had the dogs headed for a kennel (or in FW) where people don't come up and want to pet them.
I think this is different than what you're talking about. But I'm mentioning that just as I don't want to be a Stupid Guest where I'm concerned, I don't do it with my dogs either. And to please understand there's reasons why people don't leave their dogs at home or in a kennel at home. Plus, we'll be kenneling them less at Disney now that Best Friends took over and more than doubled the price. (Personally, I think they'll close all the kennels down once their mega-spa opens, to force people to use that one.) So they'll be out of your way unless you're in Fort Wilderness (but I haven't met a CM that works in a pet loops that doesn't love pets. Gloria of loop 300, we miss you and the fantastic care and attitude you gave!) And none of this excuses bad guest behavior.
Yes. It's amazing how many idiots try to twist Walt's life and intentions to fit whatever they want. The authors of "Waking Walt" did this and really ruined the book.Princess Susi wrote:WOW! People really said you were disappointing Walt's memory?
You make good points about how it's not. Since those idiots want to play the Walt card, we can remind them of the facts in Walt Disney's own words:Princess Susi wrote:I hear something else over at Board X all the time as well. This one always gets me going! I always hate when I hear that dreaded statement, "Disney is for kids."
About how nothing he did was for kids (only): "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."
And
"Why do we have to grow up? I know more adults who have the children's approach to life. They're people who don't give a hang what the Joneses do. You see them at Disneyland every time you go there. They are not afraid to be delighted with simple pleasures, and they have a degree of contentment with what life has brought - sometimes it isn't much, either."
And: "To all who come to this happy place – welcome!"
That quote is on every dedication plaque for every Disney park resort.
And to add to it, his brother's words:
"May Walt Disney World bring Joy and Inspiration and New Knowledge to all who come to this happy place ... where the young at heart of all ages can laugh and play and learn - together."
And at DCA:
"To all who believe in the power of dreams... "
And from Art Linkletter, Walt's closest friend:
"And we spent part of the day, sliding down the pole in the firehouse. Walt was leading and he'd slide down there, roll up the stairs and slide down again."
Okay, I admit I'm one of the people who brings their dogs. I don't take them into the parks, shops, restaurants etc. because they're not service dogs, but leaving them home in a kennel for a week is actually worse for them than staying in our camper in Fort Wilderness. We obey the rules with them; we clean up after them, keep them on their leashes, and keep them out of the non-pet areas.dazyhill wrote:Please leave your pets at home while visiting the parks! Or board them at a kennel facility. While you,the guest,might think it's cute to have your little dog around, there are those who feel otherwise.
If we do take them to a park to be in the kennel (because we plan to be there all day), we keep them to the side of paths so as not to bother people. In Disney Hollywood Studios, where they have to be on the tram (the kennel parking was taken away at one point), we wait for an empty one and sit in the last row. We first ask the CM who is back there if dogs will bother him or her. We figure this way, if someone is bothered by dogs, they have the entire tram to sit away from us. In Animal Kingdom where the kennel is inside the gates, we again ask the security people if dogs bother them and stay to the side. We will get photos with them at the gate, but ask the Photopass people first if it bothers them. We have friends who do the same; in fact, characters said they wanted to be in the photos with the dogs, and we've never had the dogs headed for a kennel (or in FW) where people don't come up and want to pet them.
I think this is different than what you're talking about. But I'm mentioning that just as I don't want to be a Stupid Guest where I'm concerned, I don't do it with my dogs either. And to please understand there's reasons why people don't leave their dogs at home or in a kennel at home. Plus, we'll be kenneling them less at Disney now that Best Friends took over and more than doubled the price. (Personally, I think they'll close all the kennels down once their mega-spa opens, to force people to use that one.) So they'll be out of your way unless you're in Fort Wilderness (but I haven't met a CM that works in a pet loops that doesn't love pets. Gloria of loop 300, we miss you and the fantastic care and attitude you gave!) And none of this excuses bad guest behavior.
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I guess a good retort to that saying would be "true, no matter what the age"SWTexasBelle wrote:I don't understand saying "Disney is for kids" as an excuse for kids to behave rudely. Yes, it's for kids, and for adults, and for everyone who has paid to be in the park. And they all - ALL - need to be considerate and follow the rules.
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I hate when people use the "Disney is for kids" line. That's not true. Disney is for people of all ages. The reason Walt created DL was so there would be a place where he could play with his daughters. Also, everyone is a kid at Disney.
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A few years ago I went to Knott's with my cousin. We read something that there was no line jumping allowed on the Ghost Rider. If some was to cut, they were possibly to be kicked out of the park. Is this still true?
Second, I was feeding the ducks near the turkey cart in Fantasyland. I heard the cast member telling a SG that he was not allowed to plug in his battery pack into a socket. The cast member explained that they had a power problem with the out lets. Then the guest said you must lied to everyone who wants to charge a battery. The cast member said politely to try Main Street camera shop. They have the outlets there. What's funny, the SG wanted to go and complain this to Walt Disney. To my knowledge he is cremated and in Burbank cemetary. Good luck complaining to him.
Second, I was feeding the ducks near the turkey cart in Fantasyland. I heard the cast member telling a SG that he was not allowed to plug in his battery pack into a socket. The cast member explained that they had a power problem with the out lets. Then the guest said you must lied to everyone who wants to charge a battery. The cast member said politely to try Main Street camera shop. They have the outlets there. What's funny, the SG wanted to go and complain this to Walt Disney. To my knowledge he is cremated and in Burbank cemetary. Good luck complaining to him.

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The rules at Knott's are a joke. That dump is so understaffed that it's a matter of time before they will have to close. I used to work at Knott's, and I can tell you, it's next to impossible to enforce the rules. You think it's bad at Disney's parks, try Knott's. That place is a ghetto, and a waste of money besides. The rides are falling apart from lack of maintenence, the staff is poorly trained, and to management, they are God and you are slime. They can put in all the new rides they want, that place is going downhill, and nothing can save it.
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Sad but true. One of the merchandise areas at KBF today couldn't open a store because they were understaffed. (There had been five call-outs/no-shows.) A lot of food locations can't open because there is no one to man it. You should see the lines to get food when a location is understaffed.felinefan wrote:The rules at Knott's are a joke. That dump is so understaffed that it's a matter of time before they will have to close. I used to work at Knott's, and I can tell you, it's next to impossible to enforce the rules. You think it's bad at Disney's parks, try Knott's. That place is a ghetto, and a waste of money besides. The rides are falling apart from lack of maintenence, the staff is poorly trained, and to management, they are God and you are slime. They can put in all the new rides they want, that place is going downhill, and nothing can save it.
eblackwell,you are the example of a model pet owner. I haven't had a dog in years but hope to have another furry friend in the future. Right now,I am not in a position to care for one.
I love dogs as do many of my co-workers. However we have to think of everybody who shops in the stores and what their needs are. Somebody may be severely allergic. What if a child reaches out to pet a dog and the dog bites? Then we ,the store,could get sued. We just can't afford the risk.
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I know what you are talking about. When I was doing the ROP training for theme parks, I ended up being trained at Knott's. I did at that time Grizzlie Creek Lodge for food training. That place was nice at that time. Of course that was 21 years ago. I did my merch training at the General Store in Ghost town. Those were the good old days. But know, I know that it is going to the dumps. If the roller coaster and the tracks shake, it is a piece of junk. My friend Bryan works in food and he said that there is still a hole in the roof on the log ride. That hole has been there over 1 year. Maybe the owner of Six Flags Magic Mountain should buy it and demo it and rebuild everything. 

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Forest Lawn cemetery, to be precise. Hey, wouldn't it be fun to give SG's directions there when they have complaints??? :twisted:turkeyham wrote:...What's funny, the SG wanted to go and complain this to Walt Disney. To my knowledge he is cremated and in Burbank cemetary. Good luck complaining to him.![]()
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Directions? I would just drag them out into the hub, knock on the Partners Statue and go "Mr. Disney, you're needed up here!" :p: :twisted:BRWombat wrote:Forest Lawn cemetery, to be precise. Hey, wouldn't it be fun to give SG's directions there when they have complaints??? :twisted: