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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:20 pm
by Mr. D.
Ice Bear wrote:Just guessing but I suppose you also smuggle youre children inside as underaged ?
See there you go, judging me without knowing me.

Nope. I tell the age my children are. In fact our last trip our son was under the charge age at the time we booked but was going to be in the charge age by the time we actually went on the trip. I called and asked how they wanted to price it. They said to price it as the age he would be at the time of the trip. Yes it cost us a little more, but it wasn't cheating.


hobie16 wrote:A question for Mr. D. What do you consider a fair price?

In today's market. I would consider $50/person/park/day fair admission. Think of it like gas prices. There is NO REASON gas prices should be $4/gal it is only PURE GREED. They make up/create these situations so they can raise the cost of oil. Not going to get into a political discussion here. But if gas was still $2/gal or even $2.50/gal. the oil companies would still be making a large profit. But not they are greedy, they want to rip everyone off. Disney is kinda the same way. At $50/pop they can still make a large profit, but they are greedy. Their execs feel the need to have 6 houses instead of just 3. like I said. I Love Disney. I love the magic, and everything. But I hate the evil side of it, the greed and corruption.


GaTechGal wrote:Mr D. who are you to say whether Disney is over charging or not?
Umn.. I am "joe public" You know that guy that sets the market and what it will bare.

GaTechGal wrote:You don't know what they pay their employees, what their expenses are, etc... And even if you did, where is it written that a company can only make a certain amount of money in profit?
Well, I kinda know their expense from the annual expense reports I get. but that aside, you're right, there is nothing saying they can only make a certain profit. However if the public get tiered of being ripped off, they will go some place else.

GaTechGal wrote:They are allowed in America to make whatever the market will bring. Disney has PLENTY of competition in Orlando to allow them to set prices that work within the market. Just because YOU think it's overpriced doesn't mean that it is. And scamming the system by LYING about where you are from to get special ticket pricing is morally wrong. It's stealing.
And scamming a person out of their hard earned money by over charging for a service is morally wrong.
GaTechGal wrote:And if you don't like paying $10 for a hamburger, bring your own sandwiches (I do every time). Disney is cool with that. As long as I'm not bringing in soda cans, they are fine with it.
Um. not sure which Disney you have been to but we had crackers in our back pack for our son and Disney security took them saying no outside food allowed. Now we had the dinning plan, but the point was we needed those crackers in case he got hungry between meals. God forbid. Thanks to their GREED we had to pay $$$$$ for little snacks.

GaTechGal wrote:So I think the person on the high horse is YOU when you are called out for trying to justify cheating.
No, see that's where you are wrong. I am the one on the ground looking at things from a real life perspective. Not sitting up there with a "holier then thou" mind set thinking I am perfect.

Oh and BTW, I omitted your comment about you would not take a friends discount if they were "not allowed" because I know that it total bull. I am willing to bet my right arm that if you were standing in line at the store and your friend was the cashier, and they scanned their card, or put in their ID to give you the discount, you would say "Oh thanks" and not think twice about it.







Now it's obvious we are not going to agree. so I agree to disagree. You feel it's wrong I feel that right or wrong it's okay. (kinda like driving 60 in a 55 ;) ). I have said my peace on the matter and will leave it at that.

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:21 pm
by Lasolimu
kurtisnelson wrote:Wait, you want me to WORK!? :eek:

I have a right to college, food, a annual vacation, a car, and a house of my own no matter how much I work!
UNAMERICAN OF YOU KTULU!
Seriously, work is clearly a 4-letter word! :p:

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:52 pm
by hobie16
Mr. D. wrote:Umn.. I am "joe public" You know that guy that sets the market and what it will bare.

Mr. D. wrote:However if the public get tiered of being ripped off, they will go some place else.
Looks like you solved your problem on your own.

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:31 pm
by Zazu
Mr. D. wrote:Nope. I tell the age my children are. In fact our last trip our son was under the charge age at the time we booked but was going to be in the charge age by the time we actually went on the trip. I called and asked how they wanted to price it. They said to price it as the age he would be at the time of the trip. Yes it cost us a little more, but it wasn't cheating.
Okay, let me see if I've got this right:

* Lying about your age to get in cheaper -- not OK
* Lying about your residence to get in cheaper -- OK

Did I miss anything here?

In today's market. I would consider $50/person/park/day fair admission. Think of it like gas prices.
I think we could arrange to get the price of admission cut in half. Of course, you would have to accept a 50% wage cut at the same time.

There is NO REASON you should be getting paid what you are, it is only PURE GREED. Right?

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:54 pm
by ktulu
We took snacks in for our kids all the time, security never questioned it.

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:45 pm
by hobie16

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:54 pm
by Mr. D.
Zazu wrote: I think we could arrange to get the price of admission cut in half. Of course, you would have to accept a 50% wage cut at the same time.

There is NO REASON you should be getting paid what you are, it is only PURE GREED. Right?

How many CM's make over Min wadge? Disney could charge $50/pop, still pay everyone that SAME they are making now, and STILL make a large profit. Your argument is invalid.


ktulu wrote:We took snacks in for our kids all the time, security never questioned it.

Guess Frito-Lay cheese crackers are considered a bomb threat then. God knows it's not to force people to buy snacks in the parks.


Here is another example of GREED. Took my son to the circus last year. $10/person was a reasonable price. Of course food was high ($1.25 for a 12oz can of soda). But the REAL show of greed was when ti came to cameras. Now most people would say they don't want you taking pictures of the acts as they are copyrighted, ect. so for that reason they ban you from bringing in cameras. NOPE You could BUY their disposable cameras and take all the pics you wanted. just not allowed to use your own. "Oh but they don't know if your camera is photo or video." They stopped a woman at the gate who had her own disposable camera she bought on the way there. IT IS PURE GREED. they wanted to FORCE people to buy THEIR cameras. The same way Disney wants to FORCE you to buy THEIR snacks.

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:00 pm
by Goofyernmost
Goofyernmost wrote:That was undoubtedly the most expensive way to save $14.00 ever! :p:
DonutGoddess wrote:Not if you're staying at a value resort and it isn't peak season. The lowest I've ever stayed was probably $58 and parking at the time was $12, that was a deal. If I do the value resorts I usually pay around $80. Less the $14 and you probably won't do much better unless you stay at a roach motel.

I don't like the $14/day parking but then I don't pay for it. Haven't paid for parking in years. We have passes and we go often. If I only went once a year and for just a day that $14 wouldn't be that hard to swallow. As it is, most of the hotels in the area have a shuttle bus to the parks which they are charging you for anyway. Why do you need to pay for parking?

There are other ways to save money in the parks, like bringing some of your own food, refilling your water bottle that you brought from home(frozen if you're smart) with tap water, and either finding your souvenirs off property or looking for value/clearance items. Want to keep your money, then don't spend it.
To get out of that absolutely silly grouping of moral postings...let me address this. I know that many people love staying on-site. I get that! But to think that hotels off-site are flea bags is just an unnecessary way of justifying the spending of your kids inheritance to sleep with a 5 foot mouse running up and down the hallway.

I resisted staying on-site for years because I couldn't justify to myself the cost of a Disney resort hotel. A couple of years ago I decided to give it a try and stayed at POP Century. Very nicely themed, but hardly a bargain. Getting a room for the rate mentioned hasn't, to my knowledge, been around for a long time. The room itself was so small that I had to step outside to change my mind. It was a standard Econo Lodge room, except smaller. I wanted a refrigerator. Oh, oh...another $10.00 per day on top of the approximately $70 per night cost for the room. The refrigerator was so small that it wouldn't even hold a one gallon jug with absolutely nothing else in it. The location was right next to the door and being there, it restricted the door from opening more that about 2/3rds of the way.

I was there for seven long nights. The food court was interesting but when you really sorted it out, it had very little choice. I bought a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich that was absolutely saturated with grease and was cold.

When my day of departure arrived, I counted at least 4 room cleaning CM's knocking on my door asking me if I was leaving soon, a full 2 hours before my required checkout time.

Since I still had two days left of my time in Florida, I moved out to a Quality Inn on Rte 192. The room was twice the size of POP. It had a TV that had all kinds of channels available, not just Disney sanctioned. The room contained, at no extra charge, both a good sized refrigerator and microwave. Total cost per night $32. I had multiple choices for dining within walking distance from my hotel (didn't need that because I had a rental car), but they were everywhere, no reservations required and all at a reasonable price.

So the moral of this story is...I will gladly pay the $14.00 to park and still go home with a pocket full of cash instead of mouse droppings.

And this is coming from a guy that loves Disney Parks.

Let's just say that in my mind I refuse to drink the :koolade:

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:06 pm
by hobie16
Mr. D. wrote:How many CM's make over Min wadge? Disney could charge $50/pop, still pay everyone that SAME they are making now, and STILL make a large profit. Your argument is invalid.
You've obviously seen the books. Otherwise, your argument is invalid.
Mr. D. wrote:IT IS PURE GREED. they wanted to FORCE people to buy THEIR cameras. The same way Disney wants to FORCE you to buy THEIR snacks.
Mr. D. wrote:However if the public get tiered of being ripped off, they will go some place else.
Dude, maybe you should stay home so you don't blow a gasket. Maybe you could get that HGTV show to build a mini park in your backyard.

Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:49 pm
by Mr. D.
hobie16 wrote:You've obviously seen the books. Otherwise, your argument is invalid.
You could say that, but that's not the point. Everyone knows Disney is not hurting for money.


hobie16 wrote:Dude, maybe you should stay home so you don't blow a gasket. Maybe you could get that HGTV show to build a mini park in your backyard.
What does that have to do with anything?

Never mind. I really don't care anyway.