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Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:45 pm
by hobie16
DisneyMom wrote:Hobie-Wan, You're my only hope! :p:
What is a RIN?
It's a acronym from one of Joseph Wambaugh's cop books. Rap In Nuts.

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:46 pm
by DisneyMom
MyLittleAngels wrote:His mom is raising him to be a winner! Do you ever wonder how kids like this really function when it comes to getting a job, or functioning in normal society on their own?
Well, parents like that are usually rewarded by their children choosing to never get a job and leave home :rolleyes:

I like Hobie's and Ktulu's ideas........ :twisted:

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:24 pm
by hobie16
My brother-in-law has two kids. Meredith is a highly motivated kid who gets all A's, excels in soccer, and just started college at St. Johns in NY, NY with a full ride.

Her older brother determined, half way through high school, the world owed him big time. He got tossed out of the first college he enrolled in, has bugged his parents about setting up a trust fund so he can wander through Europe playing music, took acid and determined only suckers pay taxes, decided to "take some time off" from school and wander the Western states with two other bums and pay their way by getting dish washing jobs, it goes on and on.

He called me to announce the three wanderers had decided to sail to New Zealand. They wanted to fly to Maui and borrow a boat for the trip. None of them had ever sailed before. I told him that:

1) There was no way in Hell anyone would loan a boat to rookies and

2) Hit him with some horror stories about dismastings, rogue waves, becalmed for two months, pissed off whales sinking boats, all the regular stuff.

The kid needs a daily RIN to keep his brain focused.

The funny part is he thinks I'm the only sane one in the family. Muuwwaaahahahahahahahaha!! :twisted:

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:05 am
by DisneyMom
Make him watch that movie, "Into the Wild" :rolleyes:
Intriguing movie. Shows what happens when you totally reject going mainstream.
Of course, relying on your relatives' resources isn't really asserting your independence much....... :p:

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:28 am
by hobie16
DisneyMom wrote:Make him watch that movie, "Into the Wild" :rolleyes:
Intriguing movie. Shows what happens when you totally reject going mainstream.
Of course, relying on your relatives' resources isn't really asserting your independence much....... :p:
Is that the one about the dope who lives with grizzlies and eventually is converted from neighbor to lunch?

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:00 pm
by DisneyMom
hobie16 wrote:Is that the one about the dope who lives with grizzlies and eventually is converted from neighbor to lunch?
No-although that is an alternative ending! :eek:

Into the Wild is a true story about a young man who, despite a College Education and normal type background, decides to chuck it all and live wandering the country. He ends up in the Alaskan Wilderness......you kind of admire it but ........I won't spoil the ending. ;)

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:44 pm
by felinefan
Pardon the old bag barging in, but what is with these kids today? When my generation was preteen to teen, we were concerned more about zits, the environment, saving the world from pollution, nuclear annihilation, and flunking algebra. We had Nixon in the White House (nightmare stuff right there), Watergate and the Vietnam War to worry about. The nightly news was so frigging boring--if it wasn't Watergate, it was Vietnam. We were like, WHO CARES, let's focus on other problems. That's what my generation wanted to do--fix the world's problems. We got the ball rolling on lower pollution, organic farming, and recycling.

Kids today are hopelessly self-centered, negative, and think they are the center of the universe. Guess what, kids? The universe existed millenia before you did, and it will continue to exist long after you're gone. Why not use some of that youthful energy to get off your butts and work on solving current problems? Oh, yeah, that's right--the 80's taught everybody to be greedy and self-centered; if that continues another generation, this country is toast. But then, that's what our parents thought....

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:46 am
by SpeedFreak
felinefan wrote:Guess what, kids? The universe existed millenia before you did, and it will continue to exist long after you're gone.
Justification to be emo, perhaps? :p:

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:29 am
by CptnSkippy
felinefan wrote:Kids today are hopelessly self-centered, negative, and think they are the center of the universe.
Wow... do you work on a college campus too?

Re: Why take your kids?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:49 pm
by felinefan
I've been unemployed for the last 3 years, so no, I don't work on a college campus. But I've been on a couple. Yes, I do see polite, considerate kids, but unfortunately, I also run into kids --and adults--who think they're the king of the world. Listen, I had a bunch of so-called psychiatrists and psychologists tell my parents that (supposedly) I would never be able to drive, live alone, or work at anything more than menial jobs. And my mom made sure that happened. She's now dead and burning in Hell, and I'm trying to pull myself up by my bootstraps and get on with my life. It took me 35 years to find out there was never anything wrong with me, because back in the 60s and 70s there practically was no such thing as a normal child.

Now I'm hearing about how kids today are this, that, and the other. And they all have excuses as to why they behave the way they do. And parents again are listening to pop psychologists and hanging on their every word. Listen, Thomas Edison had a very high I.Q. plus he he was imaginative, but he couldn't hack regular school. Know why? The teacher thought his constant stream of questions meant he was mentally retarded. Mrs. Edison had been a teacher before her marriage, so she took Thomas out of regular school and home-schooled him. They gave him quite a bit of leeway to perform his experiments, even though they werent always successful. One result of his need to perform experiments led to a condition that he would have the rest of his life--he was earning money for buying his supplies by selling newspapers, etc., on trains, and he was allowed to set up his chemical apparatus in a boxcar. One day the train was at a siding and jerked suddenly, causing chemicals to spill, mix and ignite. Though Thomas called for help and trainmen put the fire out, a hot-tempered conductor gave Thomas' ears such a boxing (another story says pulling--both were used as punishments back then) that his inner ear was damaged, causing deafness. However, he didn't let his deafness stop him--even when he later invented the phonograph. Yeah, he could be eccentric, but look at the benefits he's given us. But though he was eccentric, when he was young he still had to conform to his parents' rules, and later to the rules of society. Now of course the revisionists are trying to tag Edison and others as being this or that, but hey, what's the use? They're dead, it doesn't matter.

Bottom line, forget the labels and work on your strengths, not your weaknesses. If I let people slap a label on me, they tend to limit me. If I want limits on me, they will be the ones of my choosing, thank you. If you feel you absolutely must follow some professional's dictum, make sure you do your homework. Because I wasn't allowed to learn new skills, or learn to drive, etc., that has made job-hunting difficult. A lot of jobs are unavailable to me because I was never allowed to learn how to drive. I did take lessons once, but me and stick shifts don't get along. And ole mom made sure I never got to practice. People say you have to do things for yourself, but it's not as easy as it seems.