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Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:25 am
by darph nader
GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:close.

An Army, Air Force or Marine Corps captain is equivilant to A navy Lieutenant (silver railroad tracks) and they are addressed by their correct title. The only time the Commodore title is used is if the Navy RANK of captain is embarked on a ship, and is not the C.O. of the ship. In commands a Navy Captain acting in an Admirals slot is also addressed as Commodore, but that is his job title and not his rank.

Now add in the fact that a single silve bar in the navy is called a lieutenant, junior grade, but in the other services is called a first lieutenant. On a navy ship, the first lieutenant is a job title!

add some more confustion, a navy gold oak leaf is called a Lieutenant Commander instead of major like the other services, and A silver Oak leaf is a Commander, but the other services call it a Lieutenant Cononel!

add a bit more, A navy Silver eagle is called a captain but it is a rank and not a job title! the other services call it colonel!

now...try and learn all that, plus the enlisted ranks and titles, doing push ups with a rifle!!

heheheheee!

RUM?
Well I'm glad you cleared that up. :confused:
(grabs beer in total confusion)

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:46 pm
by BRWombat
Alyssa3467 wrote:I learned all of the Naval officer ranks watching Star Trek. :D:
Exactly! No arm braid is Ensign, one stripe is Lieutenant, one stripe and one dashed stripe is Lt. Cmdr., two stripes is Commander, two stripes with a dashed stripe between is Captain. (I never did figure out ST:TNG's system much, except four collar pips means Captain.)

Like most Star Trek knowledge, this information is completely useless in the real world. Sleeve stripes in the U.S. Navy are for length of service, right -- one every two years?

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:09 pm
by hobie16
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Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:21 pm
by GRUMPY PIRATE
BRWombat wrote:Exactly! No arm braid is Ensign, one stripe is Lieutenant, one stripe and one dashed stripe is Lt. Cmdr., two stripes is Commander, two stripes with a dashed stripe between is Captain. (I never did figure out ST:TNG's system much, except four collar pips means Captain.)

Like most Star Trek knowledge, this information is completely useless in the real world. Sleeve stripes in the U.S. Navy are for length of service, right -- one every two years?

only in the enlisted ranks, and each strip is four years of service and is red, if the service strip is gold that means under honorable service (no dicipline) but to get them you have to have a minimum of three strips (12 years) of good service. In the navy, that is a notable achevment, what with all the bars available!

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:03 pm
by Alyssa3467
BRWombat wrote:I never did figure out ST:TNG's system much, except four collar pips means Captain
For Captain and below, the pips correspond to the stripes on the chart hobie posted, with gold pips for the thick stripes, and black pips for the thin stripes. So a Lt. Cdr. would have two gold pips and one black pip.

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:20 pm
by drcorey
Alyssa3467 wrote:For Captain and below, the pips correspond to the stripes on the chart hobie posted, with gold pips for the thick stripes, and black pips for the thin stripes. So a Lt. Cdr. would have two gold pips and one black pip.
wow, aint that a pip.
hmm, I wonder if gladys knight was in the military...

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:44 pm
by felinefan
Interesting--I looked up the word pip in the dictionary, and there are 6 different usages, with a total of 18 differant definitions. It can be a bird disease or a symptom of it, a nonspecific human ailment, a British feeling of annoyance, to peep (like a chick), to break through the egg, as a chick does in hatching, a dot used on dice and dominoes; a spot, speck, blip or spike; an individual rootstock of lily-of-the-valley, the definition we're interested in here, a small fruit seed from a multi-seeded fruit, or something extraordinary of its kind; and two more British definitions are to beat by a narrow margin and a short high-pitched tone. Whew! The origins are interesting too, ranging from phlegm or pine, imitative, unknown origin, short for the word pippin, or pip meaning to blackball.

Interesting how the little words can have the most diverse meanings and usages....

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:04 am
by GRUMPY PIRATE
IF you watch spaceballs, they explain a pip (and a blip)

Re: Not allowed in park for free.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:43 pm
by Big Wallaby
GRUMPY PIRATE wrote:IF you watch spaceballs, they explain a pip (and a blip)
But how are they different from the bleeps and creeps?