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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sat May 31, 2008 12:36 am

Well, it will mean job security for..

police
lawyers
court workers
judges
prison workers
private security
probation workers
companies that make anti-theft devices
insurance companies (preminums will go up)
pawn shops (for fencing)
etc.


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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by lady ulrike » Sat May 31, 2008 9:03 am

EeyoresButterfly wrote:I guess with the spanking kid I come from a slightly different background.
I also didn't make clear that after a certain age (I'm not sure what it is, somewhere in the 3-5 age, and it would probably vary with each child) there should no longer be a reason to spank, cause at that age kids can understand the logic aspects of discipline.



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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by Ms. Matterhorn » Sat May 31, 2008 11:18 am

ktulu wrote:Here is a glimpse of what will happen. You can google for more news stories on these two pieces of work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COOKf3V5U6M
Wow. Nobody ever told those spoiled brats "Stealing is bad." Their parents probably steal and cheat the system too.


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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by ktulu » Sat May 31, 2008 4:06 pm

Ms. Matterhorn wrote:Wow. Nobody ever told those spoiled brats "Stealing is bad." Their parents probably steal and cheat the system too.
One of the girls dad paid back the girl scouts after the money could not be recovered. Hopefully he beat her butt too.


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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by Mayonnaise » Sat May 31, 2008 4:36 pm

ktulu wrote:Here is a glimpse of what will happen. You can google for more news stories on these two pieces of work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COOKf3V5U6M
OMGWTFBBQ.... Those little b[Explitive Deleted]s make my blood boil. How can you steal from anyone... nevermind GIRL SCOUTS, and then stand there, acting like it was perfectly normal and anyone else would have done it had they been there? GACK :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

*Is easily worked up by self important daddy's girls to begin with.*

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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by hobie16 » Sat May 31, 2008 4:53 pm

All of this begs the question, how stupid are you girls? Do you really think you can steal money and not pay for it?


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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by Mayonnaise » Sat May 31, 2008 5:01 pm

About as dumb as a bag of hammers... trouble is it won't stop them suceeding in life... and that's just not fair.

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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by hobie16 » Sat May 31, 2008 5:32 pm

With their attitudes they'll have a lot more stuff to be pissed about.


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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by Princess Susi » Sat May 31, 2008 5:47 pm

EeyoresButterfly wrote:This is why a course in behavior modification should be a requirement for becoming a parent. I will admit I don't agree with spanking. If you spank your child does that mean you are a terrible person? No. But for me it is not an option for discipline. I am a fan of love and logic (natural consequence whenever it is safe to do so). I would probably glare at somebody if they pulled a stunt like that in a grocery store. There are other ways to handle tantrums, half the time it is for the attention. There is a thing in behavior modification called extinction. You take away any reinforces for a behavior (normally attentions). There are kids who will throw tantrums for the attention or to leave the place they are at. With extinction, you simply ignore it. You will experience what is called and extinction burst (the behavior will temporarily get worse), but within a surprisingly short amount of time the behavior will stop.
Interesting that the same methods are used in training animals....We learned all about the same methods in my Veterinary Science I Class which focused on Behavior and basic care.

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Re: Nobody Disciplines their Kids

Post by EeyoresButterfly » Sat May 31, 2008 8:24 pm

Behavior modification came out of experiments on animals, it works for everybody. Obviously with humans it is a bit more complex, but it's the same principle. I don't like when people use that comparison to say that somehow it is a bad thing. We use a very complex behavior modification system called EIBI (Early Intensive Behavioral Intervention) for our classroom for preschoolers with autism. It is an amazing program. Every kid makes vast improvements, and for many, by the time they start kindergarten they are indistinguishable from their neurotypical peers. If behavior mod works for these children, it will work for any child.


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