Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by Buggy » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:56 am

GaTechGal wrote:So Wambat will that hold up in court? Inquiring minds...
I am not a lawyer, but it is my understanding that you cannot sign away your rights to legal recourse.



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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by Big Wallaby » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:15 pm

Cheshire Figment wrote:I, the undersigned, hereby state that if you allow my child(ren) not meeting the minimum height requirements to ride in this attraction, I will take full responsibility for any injuries, up to and including death of my child(ren). I hereby certify that I will accept all expenses related to injuries to or burial of my child(ren) and will not attempt, in any way, to place blame on any person or organization, and agree that nether I, nor any member of my family, will take any action in any court of law.

I also agree that if it is necessary to shut down this attraction as a result of my child(ren) riding, such as being thrown out of the ride vehicle, I will pay The Walt Disney Company any expenses related to emergency responders, expenses of special inspections of the attraction, and loss of income due to the publicity of such injuries or death of my child(ren).

Signed: A Stupid Guest
In order to sign this document, you must be able to show that you have the financial wherewithal back up your affirmation of that last statement.


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:18 pm

Big Wallaby wrote:In order to sign this document, you must be able to show that you have the financial wherewithal back up your affirmation of that last statement.
And you must post a bond to be used for any and all counseling for CM's that whitnesses such disregard for safety, as it caused great (or minor) mental anguish from being contrary to their training on guest safety.

Term of the bond, which must be renewed as it is used, to be a period of ten years.


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by Randy B » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:05 am

Cheshire Figment wrote:I, the undersigned, hereby state that if you allow my child(ren) not meeting the minimum height requirements to ride in this attraction, I will take full responsibility for any injuries, up to and including death of my child(ren). I hereby certify that I will accept all expenses related to injuries to or burial of my child(ren) and will not attempt, in any way, to place blame on any person or organization, and agree that nether I, nor any member of my family, will take any action in any court of law.

I also agree that if it is necessary to shut down this attraction as a result of my child(ren) riding, such as being thrown out of the ride vehicle, I will pay The Walt Disney Company any expenses related to emergency responders, expenses of special inspections of the attraction, and loss of income due to the publicity of such injuries or death of my child(ren).

Signed: A Stupid Guest
You forgot one paragraph.

Due to the nature of this agreement and its blatant disregard of my childs health and safety I will immediately surrender all my children under the age of majority to a representative of the nearest Child Welfare Agency immediately upon departing from this attraction. I understand that my signature on this form will constitute an admission to the charge of child endangerment. I will further agree to pay any and all fees and fines accrued from the actions required by this agency in the enforcement of the law.

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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:14 am

Randy B wrote:You forgot one paragraph.

Due to the nature of this agreement and its blatant disregard of my childs health and safety I will immediately surrender all my children under the age of majority to a representative of the nearest Child Welfare Agency immediately upon departing from this attraction. I understand that my signature on this form will constitute an admission to the charge of child endangerment. I will further agree to pay any and all fees and fines accrued from the actions required by this agency in the enforcement of the law.

Randy
you also need to add: Plus dinner for two at Outback for all CM's involved!!


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by smart1hermione » Sun May 11, 2008 11:44 pm

People are just so gosh-diggity-darn-it stupid.

I'm sure Disney doesn't make the height requirement exactly 48" because if you're 47.5" you will die a horrible death, but it's best to follow the ride standards.

Don't they have little markings on some of the rides now to make sure you're tall enough? Like on Soarin' Over CA, there's a little marker...?

For a discussion a page or two back: the literal meaning of "retard" just means "late" or "postponed". Also, no one's ever described as "retarded" anymore. So... calling someone retarded at a particular field isn't offensive because it no longer applies to any legitimate retarded people... Political correctness has absolutely ballooned in the past 5 years.


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by EeyoresButterfly » Mon May 12, 2008 1:11 am

Actually, in special education, Mentally Retarded is still the term for people with an IQ two standard deviations below normal. It is still the medical diagnosis, and one of the reasons referring to a person as "retard" in an attempt to belittle them is so offensive. The big PC thing now is People First language, which I like. It taks longer to say, and in the end it means the same thing, but it makes it clear that the person is not just the disability. For example, instead of saying a mentally retarded person, you would say a person with mental retardation. I have a friend who is blind, and she hates being described as the blind girl, after all, you wouldn't call me the "seeing girl".

Current terms that are used in special ed:

MR- Mental Retardation (medical diagnosis of an IQ two standard deviations below normal.)
LD- Learning Disabled (achievement is two standard deviations below IQ)
ED- Emotionally Disordered
BD- Behaviorally Disordered (used interchangeably with ED many times. This includes things like Oppositional Defiant Disorder and Conduct Disorder)

Then of course there are the specific disorders such as Autism Spectrum Disorders, etc. One of the other reasons retard is considered offensive is because there is still a real stigma attached to needing special ed services. It's like the "short bus" jokes, those are one surefire way to really tick me off. I have seen how many of my kids are ridiculed in the classroom by their peers who do not care or understand, and all they want is to be accepted. That will never change as long as such langauge and humor remains acceptable. It's known as linguistic determinism. Our language affects how we think about things.


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by Rob562 » Mon May 12, 2008 1:36 am

smart1hermione wrote:Don't they have little markings on some of the rides now to make sure you're tall enough? Like on Soarin' Over CA, there's a little marker...?
Actually, the red mark on Soarin' isn't to weed out people that are too short to ride, it's to indicate that someone is at the lower end of the height range and that they need to use the between-the-legs loop with their seatbelt. It's so that a shorter person can't slip out through the seatbelt.

A taller person it'd be very hard to do that unless you were very determined, but with a fussy, shorter rider, they could easily wiggle down in their seat and under the seatbelt. The loop prevents that from happening.

If someone is too short to ride Soarin', they should have been weeded out WELL before they make it to the seat.

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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by EeyoresButterfly » Mon May 12, 2008 1:43 am

For rides that do not have a height requirement there are height markers near the entrances. Children are supposed to be over a certain age to ride by themselves. If they are below the height marker, we are supposed to ask them how old they are to determine if they can ride by themselves or need an adult with them. I hate the parents that want to let the children ride Snow White's Scary Adventure in a row by themselves. I especially hate the parents who bring an obviously distressed child up to me and ask me if the ride is scary. I tell them yes, it is scary for children, and they glare at me! I'm sorry you're too stupid to read the name of the ride or the myriad of warnings telling you this ride is scary for children, but I am not going to tell you no so you can come and yell at me after your child freaks out!


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Re: Can I Sign Something Saying It's Ok?

Post by lady ulrike » Mon May 12, 2008 10:25 am

EeyoresButterfly wrote: I hate the parents that want to let the children ride Snow White's Scary Adventure in a row by themselves. I especially hate the parents who bring an obviously distressed child up to me and ask me if the ride is scary. I tell them yes, it is scary for children, and they glare at me! I'm sorry you're too stupid to read the name of the ride or the myriad of warnings telling you this ride is scary for children, but I am not going to tell you no so you can come and yell at me after your child freaks out!
I kind of get around this without the glare and without saying that it isn't scary. I simply look at the kid and tell them that they'll be okay, sometimes even with some theming, like 'you'll be fine as long as you don't eat any apples' That way I don't get the parents pissed off at me and I didn't lie to the kid telling them it's not scary, I just said that they'll be fine, nothing bad will happen to them kind of thing which is 100% true.



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