SGs Posing A Security Risk
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With all that security, how are the SGs getting in with urns full of Grandpa's ashes?
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Admittedly, I'm no expert in munitions, but I remember many years ago, seeing a news item on T.V. about plastic explosives--it looked like plain yellow plastic, was soft enough to cut with ordinary scissors, yet was explosive enough to blow out a wall. And in parts of the Middle East the terrorists have made toys with explosives in them, so when the local kids pick them up to play with them, BOOM! Kid ends up dead or crippled for life.
Also, a terrorist--or just some stupid jerk trying to be "funny" or creative in robbing a place--could set off an explosive device as a distraction, while their buddies went to work robbing, pickpocketing, or causing damage--or even planting serious explosives. Things of this nature have been done. And it's likely to be done when the park is the most crowded. You look at the other times some idiot's hijacked a plane, blown up a train, etc., they don't do it when the plane, train, etc., is half-empty, they do it when it's packed.
The attack on Pearl Harbor and the attacks on 9/11 have one thing in common--both attacks were preceded by a warning, the warnings were not taken seriously, and the result was a lot of people were killed. Right before the attack on Pearl Harbor, a radio operator reported to his superiors that a squadron of Japanese planes were approaching the naval base, and he was bawled out for transmitting a false message. But minutes later, the attack hit, the USS Arizona was sunk, and several other warships were damaged. The aircraft carriers were spared because they were already out to sea. It was several minutes before American forces could get any planes in the air, and by then the kamakazi attack was pretty much over. Google it. Had the warnings been taken seriously, in both cases alot of lives would've been spared. Maybe we wouldn't be in Iraq. Maybe we wouldn't have gotten into World War II. Vigilance pays.
Also, a terrorist--or just some stupid jerk trying to be "funny" or creative in robbing a place--could set off an explosive device as a distraction, while their buddies went to work robbing, pickpocketing, or causing damage--or even planting serious explosives. Things of this nature have been done. And it's likely to be done when the park is the most crowded. You look at the other times some idiot's hijacked a plane, blown up a train, etc., they don't do it when the plane, train, etc., is half-empty, they do it when it's packed.
The attack on Pearl Harbor and the attacks on 9/11 have one thing in common--both attacks were preceded by a warning, the warnings were not taken seriously, and the result was a lot of people were killed. Right before the attack on Pearl Harbor, a radio operator reported to his superiors that a squadron of Japanese planes were approaching the naval base, and he was bawled out for transmitting a false message. But minutes later, the attack hit, the USS Arizona was sunk, and several other warships were damaged. The aircraft carriers were spared because they were already out to sea. It was several minutes before American forces could get any planes in the air, and by then the kamakazi attack was pretty much over. Google it. Had the warnings been taken seriously, in both cases alot of lives would've been spared. Maybe we wouldn't be in Iraq. Maybe we wouldn't have gotten into World War II. Vigilance pays.
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Last time I went to DL, the bag checker made me open up a compartment in my purse to see what was inside for the first time ever(no feminine hygeine products,ya know). I thought they were looking for ashes, but then we realized that Hannah Montana would be there that day...bonniehoy wrote:With all that security, how are the SGs getting in with urns full of Grandpa's ashes?

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I am not sure about park security but you do not bring the urn. A plastic bag and hid that under the padding of a stroler or wheelchair. They have their ways.bonniehoy wrote:With all that security, how are the SGs getting in with urns full of Grandpa's ashes?

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I find it much more frightening to consider what IS GOING ON. Less civil liberties, bugged telephones, biggest national debt ever, virtually NO "terrorists" ever caught and properly prosecuted by this administration, but plenty of people who just happen to have dark skin, speak with a middle eastern accent have been PERsecuted.susislicker wrote:I agree with you, Kwahati. It is frightening to think what COULD happen,
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Oh, and an endless march of soldiers into a country that is worse off now than it was with it's former dictator, soldiers who are not involved in a war against the US, but against themselves - a civil war - that wouldn't exist if not for GWB. Thank goodness he gets voted out next year and we can get someone in who thinks clearly and speaks the truth. :)
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Absolutely! We need BIG change! And quick!screnwriter wrote:I find it much more frightening to consider what IS GOING ON. Less civil liberties, bugged telephones, biggest national debt ever, virtually NO "terrorists" ever caught and properly prosecuted by this administration, but plenty of people who just happen to have dark skin, speak with a middle eastern accent have been PERsecuted.
Oh, and an endless march of soldiers into a country that is worse off now than it was with it's former dictator, soldiers who are not involved in a war against the US, but against themselves - a civil war - that wouldn't exist if not for GWB. Thank goodness he gets voted out next year and we can get someone in who thinks clearly and speaks the truth. :)
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People get mad when I tell them that their locks will get cut off if they lock their strollers to a pole or rope and have the nearve to ask if their stroller get stolen that I will pay for it.
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Woah there brother. I'm with you on almost all of that. There are successes that you'll never hear about (maybe thirty or forty years down the road when it's declassified...) but I take your meaning. Most of those successes have happened in places that are still using the old system: getting warrants before tapping phones and conducting business in the way they have been since several presidents before now. I do agree with you that there is no reason for the trouncing of our civil liberties. I got into a good argument on a WDW bus from POR to MGM one morning where some gun totin' republicans were trying to defend bush. One of them was from New Hampshire (he was wearing it on his shirt, along with their state motto "live free or die") and was defending our lovely president. I told him that I completely understood why he would love our president given that his state's motto is "live free unless there's a scary foreign guy with a weapon around!"screnwriter wrote:I find it much more frightening to consider what IS GOING ON. Less civil liberties, bugged telephones, biggest national debt ever, virtually NO "terrorists" ever caught and properly prosecuted by this administration, but plenty of people who just happen to have dark skin, speak with a middle eastern accent have been PERsecuted.
Oh, and an endless march of soldiers into a country that is worse off now than it was with it's former dictator, soldiers who are not involved in a war against the US, but against themselves - a civil war - that wouldn't exist if not for GWB. Thank goodness he gets voted out next year and we can get someone in who thinks clearly and speaks the truth. :)
There are two issues, though, with what you said: first, GWB won't be voted out. He stole one election and he won another one. (I didn't vote for him, and I don't seem to know anybody who will admit to voting for him, but he did win one.) He'll come to he end of his tenure and be replaced. The other issue I have is that, if you think the next president, of any party, will speak the truth, you're f*ckin' nuts! Everybody running, except Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (neither of whom have a snowball's chance in hell) are politicians and therefore liars. I'll vote democrat in the hope that there'll be some change, but I'm not holding my breath. Further, I doubt anybody's going to give back any power GWB added to the job. Why would they? Even the people who are against the war (except the aforementioned two) are pretending that it's better to stay in Iraq, "since we're already there." The only thing that's going to get better under a new (democratic) president is the economy. We're not going to get real health care, we're not going to end the death penalty, we're not going to completely legalize gay marriage, and we're not going to come up with an immigration policy that makes any sense. It's like drug companies: the money isn't in curing the disease, it's in treating it! Same deal with politicians: the votes aren't in solving the problems, they're in talking about them!
Please don't let these assholes fool you. They're not trying to help you. They could give a rodent's posterior about you. I keep trying to explain this to my military friends: the whole military seems to think that republicans treat them better and, specifically, pay them more. Historically, and specifically the last few years, this is simply not true! They're spinning it to make it look like it's true. They're saying "we're spending more on defense" and the troops are hearing what they want to hear. Paying extra for a jet because the contract was awarded without a bidding process is spending more on defense, but it's not any better for the troops than what was done before.
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