Fourth of July Monorail Incident

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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by mapo » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:00 pm

turkeyham wrote:I saw guests in the front cabin and back cabin on the monorails today. Monorail Blue and Orange were running. I hope Disney will stop the front cabin/back cabin rides. I remember several years back when no one was allowed to go in the front nor the back. I hope they do that again. I would feel safer if they did this.
No, guests are not allowed in the front cabin. And if you have a way, please pass the word cause SGs are not understanding why they can't ride on front.

Just because you saw "guests" in front cabin does not mean they are guests.

Matter of fact, I can tell you for sure that these people are not guests.

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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Disneyguy85 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:22 pm

mapo wrote:No, guests are not allowed in the front cabin. And if you have a way, please pass the word cause SGs are not understanding why they can't ride on front.

Just because you saw "guests" in front cabin does not mean they are guests.

Matter of fact, I can tell you for sure that these people are not guests.

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I believe that turkeyham was talking about the Monorails in Disneyland, California. :cool:



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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Switchbeam 9 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:13 pm

kurtisnelson wrote:I think the driver of Pink decided it would be to his benefit to announce himself. Since he is on leave and the NTSB has talked to him, it was only a matter of time until his name leaked to the media. It would take an extra-scummy media to jump on a guy who revealed his own identity.
Typically during a suspension pending investigation you can't say anything to anyone. I was suspended once. They take your name tag, ID, and Monorail key. Then they escort you off the property. Can't even tell your own roomie what happened. FYI it had nothing to do with Monorails or safety. I ran into a completely un-Disney security guard when I was trying to get her help regarding a guest who was clearly mentally handicapped and separated from his group.

But this is such a vastly different situation. I was really worried it would come down to something like this with what he's been through. I was in the station when he pulled in on finishing his checkout. He's an excellent driver. He did his checkout better than I did (I had to retake mine). Now the local media knowing that spreading BS news from nutty sources can get them national attention I am worried they'll still go after him and others.
Syndrome wrote:I saw an interview last night with a friend of the pink driver (and of course they had to make a big point of repeating the driver's name several times). The friend said the only information he had wa the driver's statement, but the interviewer was like a jackal smelling blood in trying to get him to say more. For God's sake, I can just imagine how terrible everyone involved feels. Do they need to get dragged through the mud too?

Maybe during the Casey trial, our high-class Orlando media will do a re-enactment of the murder using a kid's baby doll.
Poor guy. Unfortunately sometimes it's necessary when speculation is flying around to get one's side of the story out there. Major props for not going off statement.
Belgarion42 wrote:Can you point me to something that disproves the story? I have no doubt that it's false, but I'd like something I can reference when communicating to others.
The main thing is Denny's isn't across the street or anywhere near TTC. That alone shows the article and editing staff are too incompetent to have any real and legitimate information. Their credibility is shot with that. Something like that isn't a mere mistake. It's something which is easily verifiable and anyone with any sort of background knowledge of the context of a story should know major holes like that. The only place to get food there at 2 AM is the Hess Station around the corner. Even then it's just grab-n-go pizzas and maybe they'll have the sub line open.

Another is the editorial staff made this claim that they were the two in charge of the Monorail system. On what can they base that off? Relief coordinators and managers do go off duty and then grab something to eat when their scheduled shift is over. Now that the article's editors and source's credibility are shot, we can't even believe the information of on-duty Monorail CMs being there to be correct; let alone to make the extreme connection that they were THE TWO in charge of the system: manager on duty (Monorail 1) and Monorail Central. It was 4th of July holiday. Virtually every coordinator and manager would have been working that day.

Plus the article takes this purely on the word of this supposed source. Did they fact check it? Did they go to this Denny's across the street from the TTC to see if they could get someone to spill the beans of Monorail 1 and Central being there on duty? It's quite clear the answer is no.



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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by February » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:19 pm

guys, I can't stand it.

I'm flying down tonight with hopes of going to the vigil. Even if I can't I have to do this.

To CMs here- I"m not hard to spot. I have a crutch to walk with, I wear pink converse tennis shoes and i will be wearing a pin of the blue fairy that disneymom gave me.

I hope to meet- and hug, a lot of you in the next two days.

i'll post when i get back. this is something I just have to do.

love to all
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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Syndrome » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:52 pm

Bru, I'll see you tomorrow and anyone else who might be there too. I'm guessing that many of Austin's Celebration friends and classmates will be there too. I'm not sure what I will be wearing yet; I'll probably just put on a Disney Cruise Line t-shirt and jeans as I might walk downtown instead of driving.



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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Zazu » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:55 pm

kurtisnelson wrote:It would take an extra-scummy media to jump on a guy who revealed his own identity.
And.... you think we have a shortage of such?!?


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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Syndrome » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:47 pm

WESH is still reporting the supervisor was offsite and has added more fuel to the fire, including claiming that the supervisor involved went offsite all the time and even gave orders from a McDonald's bathroom. Here's an excerpt from their crap...er, coverage:

A former Disney World monorail pilot said Friday that it was common practice for the supervisor who was in charge during Sunday's fatal crash to go off site while on duty.

In an exclusive interview with WESH 2 News, the former pilot said he has seen the supervisor at a restaurant near Disney on other occasions directing trains over a two-way radio. One time, he even heard the supervisor issuing orders from a restroom at a McDonald's near Disney World.

"He acted as if it were a normal routine thing," the former pilot said of the McDonald's incident.

The pilot, who left in 2008 after a year, said there is no way to safely direct trains if the manager is not on the Disney property. The pilot asked WESH 2 not to use his last name because of a Disney confidentiality agreement he has signed and which WESH 2 saw.

"In my opinion, this accident was 100 percent preventable," Brian said.

WESH 2 News first reported Wednesday that the monorail manager was off site at a Lake Buena Vista restaurant, 15 minutes away, relaying instructions via two-way radio when the crash happened.



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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Goofyernmost » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:57 pm

Switchbeam 9;91383]The main thing is Denny's isn't across the street or anywhere near TTC. That alone shows the article and editing staff are too incompetent to have any real and legitimate information. Their credibility is shot with that. Something like that isn't a mere mistake. It's something which is easily verifiable and anyone with any sort of background knowledge of the context of a story should know major holes like that.
Really sounds like they cannot tell the difference between Disneyland and Walt Disney World. There is a Denny's across the street from Disneyland. There are also a number of them near WDW but they could hardly be called "across the street from".


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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by joanna71985 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:25 pm

February wrote:darph and joanna i got you guys both on the card (darph was the last addition) sorry I didn't pm you back yet been crocheting over here till my eyes burn.

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Re: Fourth of July Monorail Incident

Post by Honda Enoch » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:39 pm

Originally Posted by turkeyham View Post
I saw guests in the front cabin and back cabin on the monorails today. Monorail Blue and Orange were running. I hope Disney will stop the front cabin/back cabin rides. I remember several years back when no one was allowed to go in the front nor the back. I hope they do that again. I would feel safer if they did this.

NO!!!!! Guest in the front had NOTHING to do with this. Ridding in the front of a monorail is a right of passage when going to WDW.




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