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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by DonutGoddess » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:55 am

Goofyernmost wrote:That was undoubtedly the most expensive way to save $14.00 ever! :p:
Not if you're staying at a value resort and it isn't peak season. The lowest I've ever stayed was probably $58 and parking at the time was $12, that was a deal. If I do the value resorts I usually pay around $80. Less the $14 and you probably won't do much better unless you stay at a roach motel.

I don't like the $14/day parking but then I don't pay for it. Haven't paid for parking in years. We have passes and we go often. If I only went once a year and for just a day that $14 wouldn't be that hard to swallow. As it is, most of the hotels in the area have a shuttle bus to the parks which they are charging you for anyway. Why do you need to pay for parking?

There are other ways to save money in the parks, like bringing some of your own food, refilling your water bottle that you brought from home(frozen if you're smart) with tap water, and either finding your souvenirs off property or looking for value/clearance items. Want to keep your money, then don't spend it.


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by bookbabe » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:06 am

I personally don't agree with trying to cheat (or depending on your perspective, find ways around) the system by lying about residency or using someone else's tickets, etc. If people don't like Disney's prices, don't go. Don't buy their food or souvenirs. If enough people do that, attendance and sales will fall, and Disney will get the message loud and clear that their prices are too high for the market to bear.

I also don't think someone should be surprised when their post about how to cheat Disney out of some dollars (sorry, I mean on how to save money on your vacation) is met with extreme disgust and/or negativity WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THAT POST ON A CAST MEMBER BOARD. Duh. You want to talk about how to work around the system, go over to Board X. You'll find lots of like minds there... :rolleyes:



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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by ktulu » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:17 am

Instead of using the energy to find ways to cheat the system, I used that energy to find a job and learn the trade which allows me to afford paying what $company is asking. If I want a lower price, I'll ask, and ultimately if I don't think there is value in the price, I won't pay it. I won't ruin my integrity and try to "cheat the system".


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by hobie16 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:27 am

Mr. D. wrote:... WRONG to OVER CHARGE for a service.
Darksin wrote:No sweat-shirt should cost $50-80 per a single piece...
Setting aside the real or perceived moral implications, the price set for goods and services is set by the market. If, in the case of Disney, the parks are close to or completely full, then the entry price has been set to perfection. If they're consistently in that state then prices can be raised without much fear of customer drop off.

Same goes for the shirts. If they're flying off the shelves then the price is set properly.

Here's an example. I was a systems engineering program manager at a large data storage company. I supported about 700 SEs around the world. My big event every year was to bring the SEs in to corporate for specialist training in groups of around 100.

The local hotels were getting about $300 per night until the dot com implosion hit. Our travel manager went out to reserve rooms for the next event and was told the price was still $300 by all the hotels. She replied that she wouldn't pay more than $110. A bidding war ensued. The three finalists came in at $110. She then did a second round of bidding where the three finalists fought it out. Final price? $95 a room.

So, back to Disney. They're charging a price based on the current demand. Just last year, when the economy was in the toilet, they had deals galore. There will always be price adjustments based on market demand and COGS.

A question for Mr. D. What do you consider a fair price?


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by GaTechGal » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:33 am

Mr. D. wrote:Maybe they will grow up and learn that it is WRONG to OVER CHARGE for a service. Disney is providing a service of entertainment. They are drastically over charging for this service, (and this does not take into the count of them charging $10 for a hamburger).
Mr D. who are you to say whether Disney is over charging or not? You don't know what they pay their employees, what their expenses are, etc... And even if you did, where is it written that a company can only make a certain amount of money in profit? They are allowed in America to make whatever the market will bring. Disney has PLENTY of competition in Orlando to allow them to set prices that work within the market. Just because YOU think it's overpriced doesn't mean that it is. And scamming the system by LYING about where you are from to get special ticket pricing is morally wrong. It's stealing.

And if you don't like paying $10 for a hamburger, bring your own sandwiches (I do every time). Disney is cool with that. As long as I'm not bringing in soda cans, they are fine with it.
Mr. D. wrote:The person found a way to use the rules in his favor. BRAVO.

Has a friend ever given you a discount at a store they worked at? That's not YOUR discount, you are not the employee. (Oh but I am sure you have never done anything like that huh?)
And the person in the original post was NOT following the rules that specifically say you have to show a Florida ID. He was only HOPING that the rules would not be followed so he could cheat. And if a friend can get me a discount at a store, I only want them to do that if they are ALLOWED to under the rules that they are given for that discount. We had a buddy that worked for Disney and he was able to get us into the parks for free one day. But he's ALLOWED to do that. And we were grateful and made sure that we would in no way jepordize his job by availing ourselves of his largess.

So I think the person on the high horse is YOU when you are called out for trying to justify cheating.



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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by drcorey » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:01 am

DonutGoddess wrote:Not if you're staying at a value resort and it isn't peak season. The lowest I've ever stayed was probably $58 and parking at the time was $12, that was a deal. If I do the value resorts I usually pay around $80. Less the $14 and you probably won't do much better unless you stay at a roach motel.

I don't like the $14/day parking but then I don't pay for it. Haven't paid for parking in years. We have passes and we go often. If I only went once a year and for just a day that $14 wouldn't be that hard to swallow. As it is, most of the hotels in the area have a shuttle bus to the parks which they are charging you for anyway. Why do you need to pay for parking?

There are other ways to save money in the parks, like bringing some of your own food, refilling your water bottle that you brought from home(frozen if you're smart) with tap water, and either finding your souvenirs off property or looking for value/clearance items. Want to keep your money, then don't spend it.
yeah, and the ones with no shuttle have maps.


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by drcorey » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:09 am

GaTechGal wrote:Mr D. who are you to say whether Disney is over charging or not? You don't know what they pay their employees, what their expenses are, etc... And even if you did, where is it written that a company can only make a certain amount of money in profit? They are allowed in America to make whatever the market will bring. Disney has PLENTY of competition in Orlando to allow them to set prices that work within the market. Just because YOU think it's overpriced doesn't mean that it is. And scamming the system by LYING about where you are from to get special ticket pricing is morally wrong. It's stealing.

And if you don't like paying $10 for a hamburger, bring your own sandwiches (I do every time). Disney is cool with that. As long as I'm not bringing in soda cans, they are fine with it.



And the person in the original post was NOT following the rules that specifically say you have to show a Florida ID. He was only HOPING that the rules would not be followed so he could cheat. And if a friend can get me a discount at a store, I only want them to do that if they are ALLOWED to under the rules that they are given for that discount. We had a buddy that worked for Disney and he was able to get us into the parks for free one day. But he's ALLOWED to do that. And we were grateful and made sure that we would in no way jepordize his job by availing ourselves of his largess.

So I think the person on the high horse is YOU when you are called out for trying to justify cheating.
It was a floriduh....


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by avengador1 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:40 am

If one lives in Florida it makes excellent sense to get an annual pass. I have a Premium Annual Pass and I use it at least once a week, if not more. I certainly get my money's worth.
One can save money if they are coming in from out of state. The best way to do this is to buy a multi-day park hopper ticket and stay for at least a week. If you stay in one of the Disney resorts (or partner hotels and motels) you even get free transportation to any of the Disney parks, Downtown Disney, and the Disney Hotels. Many guests don't realize that their parking ticket is good for any of the other Disney parks' parking on that day, so if they want to go to another park on the same day, they don't have to pay for parking again. The park hopper tickets are good for admittance to several of the Disney Parks in one day.
We usually eat before we go to the parks, but we also do eat in the parks as their take out service food isn't too overly priced. One can even "cheat" a bit by ordering a "kids" meal if one isn't too hungry. We used the dinning plan one year we came down and found it to be worth the expense. We literally ate our way through Disney that trip. We got more than our money's worth with the plan and didn't even eat all the desserts we could have.
Unless one has their park tickets in their hands, they better expect the need to show some ID to get them. All those wanting tickets will need to show ID, so don't expect to be able to cheat the system.
A Disney vacation can be really expensive if one wants to go that route, but it need not be. There are many alternatives to help bring costs down. All one needs to do is to research them, but make sure your choices come from a reputable service. There are many con artists that prey on unsuspecting tourists who are looking to book a vacation here.



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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by Darksin » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:44 am

hobie16 wrote:Setting aside the real or perceived moral implications, the price set for goods and services is set by the market. If, in the case of Disney, the parks are close to or completely full, then the entry price has been set to perfection. If they're consistently in that state then prices can be raised without much fear of customer drop off.

Same goes for the shirts. If they're flying off the shelves then the price is set properly.

Here's an example. I was a systems engineering program manager at a large data storage company. I supported about 700 SEs around the world. My big event every year was to bring the SEs in to corporate for specialist training in groups of around 100.

The local hotels were getting about $300 per night until the dot com implosion hit. Our travel manager went out to reserve rooms for the next event and was told the price was still $300 by all the hotels. She replied that she wouldn't pay more than $110. A bidding war ensued. The three finalists came in at $110. She then did a second round of bidding where the three finalists fought it out. Final price? $95 a room.

So, back to Disney. They're charging a price based on the current demand. Just last year, when the economy was in the toilet, they had deals galore. There will always be price adjustments based on market demand and COGS.

A question for Mr. D. What do you consider a fair price?
Oh it's fully a personal choice. I personally think it's insane so I simply don't buy them but I grew up in Florida and with Disney being in my backyard, my opinions tend to vary greatly from your typical tourist who many only have been to the parks once or twice in their lives. So while others may have no problem spending that, my discount happy brain says to me "wait till it's on sale at the outlet".
It's also not just Disney, all theme parks do it since it's a specialized market. I'm just cheap and like to save pennies where I can.

I also never, ever stay in a Disney hotel. I have a small, locally owned HoJo's that's perfectly clean, quiet, off-property but close and cheap. We're only storing our stuff and sleeping there so we often hunt for the best deal we can get. Normally we're in Orlando for two weeks (off-season) and pay around $190 per week for our hotel.

Much like anything, it's personal choices. If your looking for a deal, you hunt out the best you can find for what your willing to spend.


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Re: Non Florida Residents using Florida Resident Tickets

Post by kurtisnelson » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:59 pm

ktulu wrote:Instead of using the energy to find ways to cheat the system, I used that energy to find a job and learn the trade which allows me to afford paying what $company is asking. If I want a lower price, I'll ask, and ultimately if I don't think there is value in the price, I won't pay it. I won't ruin my integrity and try to "cheat the system".
Wait, you want me to WORK!? :eek:

I have a right to college, food, a annual vacation, a car, and a house of my own no matter how much I work!
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