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Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:31 pm
by DisneyMom
hobie16 wrote:Did it look like this?

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THAT'S the bike you ride when you start falling off your Menstrual Cycle! :p:

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:57 pm
by Mr. D.
avengador1 wrote:The heat doesn't get bad here until about June and stays that way until around the end of August. Other than that, it is pretty good year round.
I was born and raised in Pine Hills. Winter time still had some warm days.
Shorty82 wrote:Guest service will also suffer as there will be quite a few CMs who are very tired or otherwise don't want to be working at the gawd-awful hours of the morning.

There are plenty of people that would be willing to work a 3rd shift job. night owls.
Shorty82 wrote:I'm not sure it'll be worth the costs. Disney is going to have to pay out a hell of a lot of overtime, third shift differential and probably some double-back,
Why would they have to pay anything more then normal pay? They can create a 3rd shift for attraction CM's and let them work normal 8 hr days (or less). So no over time. Or heck, do like most factory jobs do and work 4, 10 hr days. Still no over time.

Shorty82 wrote:a LOT more electricity will be used than normal (running rides mostly but also climate control), and there are many other overhead costs as well. I'm not sure there's going to be enough people there to cover all of these costs let alone make profit.
I am sure Disney could afford the extra cost, and I really think that if the parks were open 24/7, enough guest would go. Remember, "If you build it, they will come"
NemoRanger wrote:I just do not see the thrill in being open 24hours. I have never had a 4am craving to ride Space Mountain.

But some people have. :)
hobie16 wrote:It'll probably be like the 24 hour grocery stores. At 3 AM the only people wandering the aisles are the dope smokers who have a terminal case of the munchies.

I resent that. I am a night owl and work a 3rd shift job, on my nights off I am still up all night. So I do my shopping at Wal-Mart at 3 am.

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:08 pm
by hobie16
DisneyMom wrote:THAT'S the bike you ride when you start falling off your Menstrual Cycle! :p:
Does a Menstrual Cycle have a comfortable seat?

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:11 pm
by hobie16
If DLR was ever opened for 24 hours I'd make reservations at Blue Bayou for 4 AM as I might finally get a table on the railing.

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:17 pm
by delsdad
Mr. D. wrote: Why would they have to pay anything more then normal pay? They can create a 3rd shift for attraction CM's and let them work normal 8 hr days (or less). So no over time. Or heck, do like most factory jobs do and work 4, 10 hr days. Still no over time.
At this point at least, the overnight shift is a one time only event. So it would be staffed by CMs picking up extra shifts. There's no way the company would hire and train an entire shift worth of cast members to cover just one extra ordinary shift. Therefore, is a cm who already has his 40 hours in gets scheduled to work the 3rd shift that night; It is overtime.
As well, many collective agreements provide for a shift premium for work overnight, perhaps from 11pm-8am. I don't know the details of all the contracts involved, but I'm quite sure that there is some sort of bump in pay for most departments when working the overnight.

If the 24 hour operation of the park became a regular occurrence, then you can bet that the next contract negotiation would try and remove the premiums for work during overnight periods.

Many employers agree to the premium pay in their contracts for overnight work knowing that it will almost never be something that they have to pay. Its given to the union as a freebie, and presented as the employer giving something up. But it is worthless to the workers, except if it A) it deters the employer from making the worker work overnight or; B) provides a bump in pay for the worker who does willingly choose to work the overnight shift.

Sometimes no amount of money (within reason) makes it worth upsetting your life to work the third shift. Other times it works out brilliantly !. My wife works third shift for a week every 3 months. While it comes with a small 1$ and hour premium, the real perk is that it is followed by a paid week off ! And that week off allows her time to get her clock straightened out, and then have some fun time. But the price is disturbing the family schedule for the week of midnights.

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:25 pm
by ktulu
hobie16 wrote:If DLR was ever opened for 24 hours I'd make reservations at Blue Bayou for 4 AM as I might finally get a table on the railing.
2/29/2012, opens at 6AM, closes on 3/1/2012 at 6AM. Start calling :D:

The first time mrs ktulu and I went to blue bayou we got a table by the water. 2nd time not so lucky, we like the food better at Cafe Orleans, or that place upstairs...

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:49 pm
by Goofyernmost
Shorty82 wrote: a LOT more electricity will be used than normal (running rides mostly but also climate control)
I'm thinking that "some" additional electricity would be used, but not that much. After all the place is lit up all night while maintenance is being done. You can't tell which lights are burnt out if they are turned off.

Perhaps the actual running of the rides would be using more power, but remember that a lot of that stuff is on most of the night anyway without the possibility of any revenue from food sales or merchandise sales.

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:51 pm
by DisneyMom
hobie16 wrote:Does a Menstrual Cycle have a comfortable seat?
It is sometimes Padded :twisted:

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:04 pm
by Goofyernmost
OK, now you are all just getting gross! :eek:

Re: Magic Kingdom to be open 24 hours on leap day

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:37 pm
by goofyjoe
Does anyone else fancy the taste of Dole Whip at 4:30 in the morning?

I'm not sure if I do, but I'm usually tapped out by 9:30-10pm on my Disney trips. I'm sure the crazy parents who decided to drag their kids for all 24 hours (despite their being tired, hungry, cranky, etc.) will be out in force. They could put that on the commercial instead.