Orlando Sanford airport opts out of TSA screening services

[Zazu]

This goes back to my compass incident....

I gotta go with the ban on drawing compasses. They can be used as an instrument of math deconstruction!

[mapo]

In an answer to the question about how much does Disney add to the park admission for park entry security??

Not enough....not even close to enough. For those of you that are unsure, the freaking holidays are here at WDW. And people SUCK. Add a full moon this week and well .... you start to wonder how the world functions with so many freaking idiots. Oh, and they are Breeding!

Someone mentioned something like "like I look like a terrorist?!?!" in their post. Yes, you do look like a terrorist. If you think that a terrorist in today's world is gonna be some guy wearing a turban with a neon t shirt that says "death to America" or something...well, we do have fantasyland here. It is sad to say, but a few times almost those exact words have come out of my mouth.

Without giving away any company secrets, I can tell you that the amount of unacceptable crap people try to bring into WDW is staggering. AND that is in *one* day. Imagine if Security was given the resources and permission to x ray or wand every guest and CM entering our property.

Let me tell you a story (Disney Cast love stories) I was there the day some homegrown terrorist at Orlando International Airport (OIA) was found with two live bombs. Homeland Security was searching the airport and individual airplanes to retrieve other devices he was thought to have gotten thru in his bags. He had multiple tickets and boarding passes on several airlines.

I was never so happy to see FBI, Homeland Security, TSA, Orlando Police, OIA Police and k9 in my life. (Yeah, I am the one who acts guilty when a cop pulls behind me on the road. )

I did assume that the guy was the one that they took in handcuffs wearing a bomb jacket through one of those mystery doors. Let me tell you, he looked more rational, more educated, cleaner, and all american than most Disney cast.

Morale of my story: It is sad that we have to even think that way. It is sadder yet when guests and cast do not take the safety policies and procedures seriously. In a time when anyone can grow up to be anything, unfortunately they can grow up to be bad people who do bad things.

Points to think about:
* Do security measures at WDW slow you up that much before you stand in the turnstile lines?
* Are the security hosts being rude or patting you down before you can move to the entry gates?
* Just how long is too long when we talk about protecting you, your family, and the Disney magic from life altering events?

It is such an important topic that Disney Corp has declared a new Safety campaign for cast "No one Gets Hurt". Perhaps we can all take that simple, elegant idea and apply it to our non-Disney lives.

Sorry if I got off on a rant....been a long week I guess.

mapo

[kcberlin]

^^

Amen mapo. If more people would stop bitching and just do what they were asked (within reason) things wouldn't be so effing slow and we could all get on with our "magical days".

[Shorty82]

If I have my camera with me when I visit the parks (that's about the only bag I ever bring) I have all the pockets open and ready to be checked before I reach the guard and I close it up after stepping away from the bag check. This expedites my bag check and doesn't hold up anybody behind me.

If people would get their bags ready to be checked as they approach the bag check they would speed up the check as the guard doesn't have to wait for them to open up the pockets and what not.

[DisneyMom]

Economics again. If some companies are going to profit from an opportunity then why not go along for the ride and invest in them. Remember, there are no problems, just opportunities.


Anyone working around devices that produce radiation should be concerned. Example: Many traffic cops in cars would place their radar guns between their legs while doing paperwork. Result? Testicular cancer.

If I was a TSA worker I'd be more concerned about the radiation from the conveyor belt x-ray machines. They have to be a lot stronger to view the inside of bags going through the system.

They have Badges that measure yearly radiation exposure for health care workers in high risk areas-maybe they'll make them available for TSA workers and Frequent Flyers

[PatchOBlack]

Sure, but strip scanners and gropings don't help prevent that.

Well, technically, nothing really will prevent it entirely. However, the scanners and pat-downs are designed to increase the chance of catching someone trying to get weapons on-board. I am not saying there are no possible ways around them, but is there really unbiased statistics that say that use of these methods don't improve the odds of stopping someone from boarding with a weapon?

Personally, I would be more convinced with an argument of being willing to accept a greater possible risk of something happening in exchange for not having stricter security measures on the basis of personal rights, though even that might be suspect.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

They have Badges that measure yearly radiation exposure for health care workers in high risk areas-maybe they'll make them available for TSA workers and Frequent Flyers

http://www.nukepills.com/radiation-detector.htm

TSA workers have been told that they will not be issued them and cannot wear them.

(the TSA workers have some of the worst working conditions of much of the federal government when it comes to safety)

[PatchOBlack]

http://www.nukepills.com/radiation-detector.htm

TSA workers have been told that they will not be issued them and cannot wear them.

(the TSA workers have some of the worst working conditions of much of the federal government when it comes to safety)

Now, that concerns me. Not specifically the radiation detectors, but that we put people in charge of safety, but then make the job harder on them than it should be. I'm not saying we should be giving these folks huge perks, but it isn't a stretch to imagine that if an employee has bad working conditions, he's not going to be inspired to go above and beyond.

[hobie16]

http://www.nukepills.com/radiation-detector.htm

TSA workers have been told that they will not be issued them and cannot wear them.

(the TSA workers have some of the worst working conditions of much of the federal government when it comes to safety)

Apparently the Feds didn't learn anything from all the dead soldiers killed by radiation from post WWII nuclear testing in Nevada. It even got John Wayne.

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Now, that concerns me. Not specifically the radiation detectors, but that we put people in charge of safety, but then make the job harder on them than it should be. I'm not saying we should be giving these folks huge perks, but it isn't a stretch to imagine that if an employee has bad working conditions, he's not going to be inspired to go above and beyond.

most of the ones I have talked to have a very good attitude. And they try and keep a good perspective on their duties. (you think disney employees have SG's, wow I bet the TSA people could tell some stories!) but like any relatively new agency, they need to have leaders and managers start to look at the working conditions and concerns of the employees.

quite truthfully, the upper management is probably concerned that if the TSA officers wear dosimeters, the public outcry will double or triple, because the flying public doesn't seem to make the connection of protecting the people that run the machines (like a doctors or dentists office) with the ones at an airport.