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Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:25 pm
by shilohmm
Cheshire Figment wrote:They used to have the most tacky aluminum Christmas Trees and Wreaths and other decorations.
Oh, man, I would have loved that. We had an aluminum Christmas tree in the 1960's. I don't suppose they had the revolving four paneled lights on them, though. :tree:
Goofyernmost wrote: No, they never thought they could pull them out and replace them, the concept was to pre-fab so that the construction would go much faster.
I read up about it back in the day, and I still bought into the pulling out thing. :rolleyes: Mythos trumps memory again. :notallthe

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:30 pm
by Zazu
Cheshire Figment wrote:According to everything, and I do remember seeing an official Disney video of this, the rooms were built about a mile from the Contemporary and slid into place by cranes. The expectation was that on an as-needed basis complete rooms would be removed and replacements put in place. However, they did not take into account the Florida humidity's effects on the concrete or the building settling.
You are correct about the off-site construction and assembly (for the Contemporary tower, garden wings, and the Polynesian). However, I have never seen anything from the Company or builder US Steel about removing the rooms (though I've read plenty about this on various web sites).

If you think about it a moment, it doesn't make much sense. To remove a room you'd have to take down and remove all the wiring, plumbing, and ductwork for half a floor, and then you'd still need big cranes to move the rooms in and out -- and doing so would require removing all the paving and planters on that side of the tower. Not to mention effectively closing the building for the duration!

It's a whole lot simpler to just repaint, rewire, and replace the furnishings when it's time for a rehab -- exactly as has been done for every rehab to date.

Sorry, it sounds like a neat idea, but the rooms aren't on drawer slides. It was just a way to get the place built *fast*.

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:51 am
by kcberlin
I was so busy talking about the bad, I forget the best part. It requires a bit of a set up, so please forgive me.

16 years ago on my honeymoon, my wife and I ate at the Sci-Fi Dine in. We had an amazing time and talked about it for years after. Last year was our first return since then, and it was lackluster to say the least. Not terrible, just average at best.

We decided to try again this year and what a difference a year makes. No ADR, and we got in. Our server, Kimberly was so amazing, we thought we were the only people there. She was so good, in fact, we left comparing it to our honeymoon. It was a late dinner and the park was closing, but we had to take the time to go to guest relations and let them know what a great job she did and how much it meant to us.

It's CM's like that which make the Disney experience magical. For those of you out there who do so well and get so little thanks, I want you to know that there are those of us out there who appreciate you. You are the reason that we keep coming back.

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:02 am
by DragonFox98
I'm glad you had a great trip, KC. And your amazing view....I am just so jealous (but in a good way). Donny and I are busy with the kids planning our trip for October. We're hoping for free dining, but won't be devastated if they don't extend it this year. Glad you're home safe and sound.....

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:34 am
by delsdad
kcberlin wrote:
It's CM's like that which make the Disney experience magical. For those of you out there who do so well and get so little thanks, I want you to know that there are those of us out there who appreciate you. You are the reason that we keep coming back.
This should be printed poster size and posted in every break room at all the parks ! And management needs to know this, that all the latest gee whiz rides won't keep people coming back the way that having great Cast Members does.

Just yesterday, while booking some dining for August, I encountered a great Cm at WDW-DINE, she went out of her way to work through computer issues that were preventing her booking our group of 9 for a couple of special meals. With the help of her support team she was able to secure the reservations. When we got disconnected by the phone system (we were on and off hold for a very long time as she worked through this) She called us back so fast I had not even hung up on the disconnect yet! It made the 45 minute call worthwhile. Thank you Constance !

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:09 am
by Big Wallaby
Zazu wrote:You are correct about the off-site construction and assembly (for the Contemporary tower, garden wings, and the Polynesian). However, I have never seen anything from the Company or builder US Steel about removing the rooms (though I've read plenty about this on various web sites).

If you think about it a moment, it doesn't make much sense. To remove a room you'd have to take down and remove all the wiring, plumbing, and ductwork for half a floor, and then you'd still need big cranes to move the rooms in and out -- and doing so would require removing all the paving and planters on that side of the tower. Not to mention effectively closing the building for the duration!

It's a whole lot simpler to just repaint, rewire, and replace the furnishings when it's time for a rehab -- exactly as has been done for every rehab to date.

Sorry, it sounds like a neat idea, but the rooms aren't on drawer slides. It was just a way to get the place built *fast*.
Actually, if they had done it today, they could have built systems in to make it possible. The way they could have made the wiring all come to one point, they could have used steel for the pipes and had them meet in such a way that they wouldn't even need to fully seal them... You could make that room completely modular, and you could even design a way to remove/replace rooms without having to shut down the hotel. You could literally take a room, have people walking down the hall and not know a room is gone, if you did it right.

Is that possible? Yes. Feasible? I don't know.

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:49 pm
by hobie16
Big Wallaby wrote:Is that possible? Yes. Feasible? I don't know.
All it takes is money.

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:47 pm
by felinefan
Yeah, but think of the liability. Guest opens door to a room that's just been removed, steps through, and falls five stories to their death. You could of course put a warning sign on the door, but how many people read signs anymore? :eek:

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:09 pm
by darph nader
felinefan wrote:Yeah, but think of the liability. Guest opens door to a room that's just been removed, steps through, and falls five stories to their death. You could of course put a warning sign on the door, but how many people read signs anymore? :eek:
Kinda like Failblog.org. :D:

Re: A 35 year old dream come true

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:58 pm
by Main Streeter
darph nader wrote:Kinda like Failblog.org. :D:
Don't we all just love the way darph lets us know he has found a new site? ;)