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Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:24 am
by kurtisnelson
Zazu wrote:It had been under that bus -- unnoticed -- since 1998.
It's nice to know that if someone attaches something nefarious to a bus it won't be noticed for at least 10 years.

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:08 am
by hobie16
kurtisnelson wrote:It's nice to know that if someone attaches something nefarious to a bus it won't be noticed for at least 10 years.
Don't you want it to age properly? :D:

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:29 am
by drcorey
hobie16 wrote:Don't you want it to age properly? :D:
wow, you can make bus cheese....
good luck trying to find the one with your gouda under it after 10 years thou.

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:59 pm
by delsdad
Cranbiz wrote:So what happens is the staff that knew what it was have moved on, a new mechanic has never seen it before and said something to a manager who also has never seen it before.

Instant suspicious item. In this day and age, who knows. With the way buses are parked in remote locations at night, a determined crazy could easily plant something.
And as a result this was all handled in exactly the correct fashion. I for one would much rather deal with the inconvenience caused by someone following the procedure, rather than some sort of disastrous outcome were it a genuine "device" and the CM not wanted to bother causing any hassles.

Sounds like they did not "download" all the trivia picked up by previous mechanics, before allowing them to move to other rolls or employment.

Imagine the wealth of information (unwritten) that is stored in the memories of long time cast members. If only it could be transferred intact to the new
cms as part of training. "Traditions" would become a 2 year course !

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:42 pm
by Big Wallaby
Cranbiz wrote:In this day and age, who knows. With the way buses are parked in remote locations at night, a determined crazy could easily plant something.
If only we had security constantly watching over them...
delsdad wrote:"Traditions" would become a 2 year course !
Let's get started!

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:58 pm
by darph nader
[quote="Big Wallaby"]If only we had security constantly watching over them...

I'm availible. Just give me a place to sleep during the day. :cool:

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:23 pm
by Main Streeter
LOL, anything for free park pass, right darph? We are talking WDW! Today is your 25th wedding anniversary, & you're trying for a position 2000 miles away. :D: Happy Anniversary to you & The Baker.
:congrats:

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:39 pm
by Zazu
delsdad wrote:And as a result this was all handled in exactly the correct fashion. I for one would much rather deal with the inconvenience caused by someone following the procedure, rather than some sort of disastrous outcome were it a genuine "device" and the CM not wanted to bother causing any hassles.
I agree. On Main Street, we called this sort of thing not an embarrassment, but a "high quality failure". A "low quality failure" would have been to under-react and let a bus explode. Far less likely, but far worse.
Sounds like they did not "download" all the trivia picked up by previous mechanics, before allowing them to move to other rolls or employment.

Imagine the wealth of information (unwritten) that is stored in the memories of long time cast members. If only it could be transferred intact to the new cms as part of training. "Traditions" would become a 2 year course !
I'd be happy if it went back to being a 2 *day* course!

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:53 pm
by Shorty82
Zazu wrote:I agree. On Main Street, we called this sort of thing not an embarrassment, but a "high quality failure". A "low quality failure" would have been to under-react and let a bus explode. Far less likely, but far worse.
I have to remember that. "High quality failure" has a nice ring to it. It is better to react like Transportation did to anything suspicious like that than to assume it is nothing but instead it turns out to be a bomb or something. It's not a happy thought but facts are that WDW is pretty high up on terrorist hit lists.
I'd be happy if it went back to being a 2 *day* course!
It should be. I didn't learn enough at Traditions and I can tell way to many of the new hires definitely don't learn enough.

Re: Suspicious pkg?

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:17 pm
by turkeyham
Would a fruit cake be a suspicious package? I was just reading about security at the airports have tighten up. Checking for home made bombs that are made from liquid proxcide.