Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by hobie16 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:57 am

DisneyMom wrote:So, Ms. Matterhorn, how's it going with the "Future MD"? ;)
My nephew, the brain trust, was also a future MD. His mom was so intent on him becoming a doc that she did half his homework and a number of his merit badges for Eagle Scout.

He got to college, took the first quarter of classes his mom signed him up for, and once he found out he could call the shots on the next quarter classes, signed up for one class.

When mom found out she was crushed. When dad found out after signing the check for six large, sonny boy almost got yanked out of school.

He finally got tossed out for a still secret reason and now majors in philosophy at another school.


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by DisneyMom » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:18 pm

I think my kids are majoring in "Guitar Hero" and Emo 101.... :rolleyes:
just kidding, actually,I think that they are doing pretty well this semester, of course, I'm going to check their grades! :twisted:


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by hobie16 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:51 pm

I forgot one thing about my nephew. He told his parents he wanted them to take all the money they were going to spend on college for him and set up a trust fund so he could wander around Europe and find himself. I believe his dad's response was, "Find this!"


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by DisneyMom » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:19 pm

hobie16 wrote:I forgot one thing about my nephew. He told his parents he wanted them to take all the money they were going to spend on college for him and set up a trust fund so he could wander around Europe and find himself. I believe his dad's response was, "Find this!"
Didn't they know they OWE him? :rolleyes:


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by hobie16 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:51 pm

DisneyMom wrote:Didn't they know they OWE him? :rolleyes:
Totally!!

Meanwhile, his sister is working her ass off in high school to get both an academic scholarship (85%) and an athletic, soccer (15%) at St. John's in New York because sonny boy used up most of the college money.

Everything was looking good until two weeks ago. She was playing a game in San Diego with her college coach watching and blew out an ACL. She said she heard eight pops when it went. The good news is the academic scholarship is locked in. She'll be off the knee for six months and may show up here for some recovery time. :palm:


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by june1st1997 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:50 pm

Syndrome wrote:That kid would've had to move his ass fast if he pulled that with me because I would have kicked right back. If the "parents" (I use the term loosely) had said anything, I would have said, "I have Tourettes that is aggrevated by hostile bodily contact which causes me to lash out uncontrollably in response, so if I were you I'd keep him away." I had a little brat in the pre-show room of Dinosaur once who stepped on my foot. I was wearing flip-flops so that wasn't pleasant, but I figured once might be an accident, especially in the dark, and gave him a gentle little nudge. He stepped off, then stepped back on HARD and he got a swift kick in the back of his bratty little legs. You can be sure he stayed far away from me after that, and if he had whined about it, my excuse would have been, "It's dark and I was stumbling around from the pain and didn't see you, just like you apparently didn't see me."
Some people may not like this...

Let me start with this. I'm all over my daughter when we are in line. She's 2 and the personal space thing is lost on her. But she's good. Has never bumped anyone but me. She does not play with the chains... She is a dream. I have even had people comment on line about what a good girls she is. I do feel it's my responsibility to make sure she is a valuable member of society.

If anyone ever laid a hand or foot on my kid, I don't know what I'd do, but I'm guessing I'd go to jail for it.

It's a kid. A child. I can totally see my 2 year old doing what is described above and not realizing she has done it. Your response is to kick her. That's ok? Let's say she is 8... It's ok for an adult to kick an 8 year old child? 12?

Would you attack an adult as easily? Or just people you are bigger than?

As you can see, I'm a bit of a momma bear when it comes to kids and violence.



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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by GRUMPY PIRATE » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:03 am

june1st1997 wrote:Some people may not like this...

Let me start with this. I'm all over my daughter when we are in line. She's 2 and the personal space thing is lost on her. But she's good. Has never bumped anyone but me. She does not play with the chains... She is a dream. I have even had people comment on line about what a good girls she is. I do feel it's my responsibility to make sure she is a valuable member of society.

If anyone ever laid a hand or foot on my kid, I don't know what I'd do, but I'm guessing I'd go to jail for it.

It's a kid. A child. I can totally see my 2 year old doing what is described above and not realizing she has done it. Your response is to kick her. That's ok? Let's say she is 8... It's ok for an adult to kick an 8 year old child? 12?

Would you attack an adult as easily? Or just people you are bigger than?

As you can see, I'm a bit of a momma bear when it comes to kids and violence.
So its Okay for your daughter to go kick a stranger, and/or step hard on the bare toes of a stranger, like Syndrome described?

Bumping into someone in line, by a little one, is no big deal. its happened both at WDW and DLR. But to have a kid, of any age, assault an adult and not expect anything is beyond rude (and stupid)

I recall a story of a certain Safari driver that had a kid yell into his ear from a few inches away, effectively causing temporary defness, Is that okay? And I believe that was after the parents encouraged it. (yes they were total SG's)

And if your daughter does that (being a SG) and does assault someone, and they react the way anyone would, you are then going to further assault them?

Just wondering at what point you correct the bad behavior?


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by Amphigorey » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:05 am

june1st1997 wrote:
If anyone ever laid a hand or foot on my kid, I don't know what I'd do, but I'm guessing I'd go to jail for it.

It's a kid. A child. I can totally see my 2 year old doing what is described above and not realizing she has done it. Your response is to kick her. That's ok? Let's say she is 8... It's ok for an adult to kick an 8 year old child? 12?

Would you attack an adult as easily? Or just people you are bigger than?

As you can see, I'm a bit of a momma bear when it comes to kids and violence.
I'd certainly kick someone who stomped on my foot. I probably wouldn't think twice about it. Child or not is no excuse.



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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by DisneyMom » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:17 am

I think she was just talking about brats who PURPOSELY injure another child or adult just because they think they can get away with it. Now, I'm not advocating physical discipline administered by strangers,but that little darling apparently avoided injuring her again, and maybe now he'll think twice about doing it to someone else.
Doing something like that is risky, just because that purposely bratty child usually is accompanied by an equally obnoxious adult, who will chew your ass out if you say even timidly," Oh, excuse me. Your child has purposely stomped my foot several times now, and I'd appreciate it if you could have him stop, it is really painful."
Either way, saying something or not, I am usually stewing afterward at the lack of good parenting.... :mad:


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Re: Did The Definition of the Word "Parent" Change?

Post by mechurchlady » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:02 am

I have SID/SPD and hang out on the disability section of disboards. Do you even know if that child knew he was hurting someone? Maybe that child has autism, auspergers, SID or some other disability that causes them to not know they are hurting a person on purpose. Probably was a brat but why was the kid stepping on a person. Most kids would say oops and stop. What if that was an autistic kid that you kicked? He is in his own little world and oblivious to what is around him when he gets kicked. I think some people should read the laws about assault and battery as well as hang with the moms who have disabled kids.

Also what if the kid was not disabled but his bratty sister was bugging him. What if he saw a bee and stepped back. What if the person in front of him cause him to step back. I would put my hand out and if he was coming at me again his back would hit my hand and he would know he had hit an immovable object.


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